PRC Peoples Liberation Army Navy

V

Volkodav

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
76mmGuns said:
In the last few days an incident occurred where a Chinese destroyer collided with a Chinese coast guard ship, while both were harrassing a filipino fishing boat and a filipino coast guard ship. After the collision, the PH CG ship offered medical assistance to the Chinese ships, with no reply.

What I want to point out though is the damage to the destroyer......is consisted of a few scratches and a dent. The Chinese CG ship's bow was completely crushed, in contrast. you can google search this easily.

There have been several high profile collisions in the last few years involving western ships, most of which show major damage and several being declared non salvageable.

The point is- western ships have thin steel shells and it looks like China has possibly decided to improve survivability with thicker/stronger ships.
Click to expand...
I toured a Spruance class destroyer years ago and one of the crew mentioned she'd been involved in a collision and couldn't use any of her forward armament until she had a complete refit because of misalignment cause by the impact.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese destroyer has more damage than is apparent.
 
R

Redshift

Active Member
Volkodav said:
I toured a Spruance class destroyer years ago and one of the crew mentioned she'd been involved in a collision and couldn't use any of her forward armament until she had a complete refit because of misalignment cause by the impact.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese destroyer has more damage than is apparent.
Click to expand...
Many countries and Navies would, understandably, not make this public (except the UK because the Daily Telegraph would make it a front page headline) but China and the PLAN would most likely lock anyone up who even breathed a word about such news. They probably still view the coastguard vessel as operational
 
Sandhi Yudha

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
Volkodav said:
I toured a Spruance class destroyer years ago and one of the crew mentioned she'd been involved in a collision and couldn't use any of her forward armament until she had a complete refit because of misalignment cause by the impact.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese destroyer has more damage than is apparent.
Click to expand...
Imagine the misalignment of the systems on board the coastguard vessel.
Maybe even sensitive navigation systems like the INS have to be replaced, the deceleration really had to be very abrupt.
 
Ananda

Ananda

The Bunker Group



Fujian shown trial launching J-15, J-35 on the EMALS catapult and arrested landing. However the EMALS seems become the focus, as it is shown case that China EMALS catapult works.

Add KJ-600 carrier based AEW

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
youtube.com youtube.com
 
Last edited:
T

T.C.P

Well-Known Member
I have been a member on this forum for over a decade, back when I was still in high school. Imagine someone back then saying that China would launch a 5th gen fighter from EMALS on a carrier before the US navy.
 
spoz

spoz

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
Gerald Ford has been launching aircraft using EMALS since 2017, so China is not the first by about 8 years.

Still an impressive achievement in a short time, though.
 
T

T.C.P

Well-Known Member
John Fedup said:
Have F-35Cs been launched off the Ford?
Click to expand...
Ford still does not have F-35s. The US launched F-35Cs from ground based EMALS launchers, but none from any carriers. AFAIK the issue with the Ford is not its EMALS, but its missing other things that they apparently need to host F-35Cs.
 
Ananda

Ananda

The Bunker Group
This trial on Fujian is not shown the air wing will be ready soon. It is shown:
  1. The EMALS initial operation trial shown it works,
  2. The three types of planes that being prepares for CATOBAR operation are so far shown they are suitable doing that.
It is also shown PLAN still mimic USN on air wing types with J-35 (for F-35), J-15 (for FA-18), and KJ-600 (for E-2D). To stress this is only talk similar function not capabilities, I don't want to enter that rabbit hole discussion.

There are still debate on Chinese forum whether the 4th carrier will be conventional power like Fujian, or CVN. Personally from the planned 6 carriers by next decade, I tend to see PLAN will move conservatively. Thus 2 STOBAR CV, 2 CATOBAR CV, and 2 CATOBAR CVN. If they can do this on the next decade means they are able to field 6 Carrier Air Wing. Still remarkable jump on Carrier operation for a Navy that until early last decade still has zero experience operating Carrier Air Wing.
 
Sandhi Yudha

Sandhi Yudha

Well-Known Member
Ananda said:



Fujian shown trial launching J-15, J-35 on the EMALS catapult and arrested landing. However the EMALS seems become the focus, as it is shown case that China EMALS catapult works.

Add KJ-600 carrier based AEW

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
youtube.com youtube.com
Click to expand...
It is really frightening how fast and precisely china can copy foreign military technology and capabilities. The procedures, uniforms, hand signals... I wonder if they just watch Top Gun over and over again, or did they hire american consultants who don't have a problem to teach such things to the chinese?





This article reports about sea trials of two chinese very large underwater vehicles/unmanned submarines. China has built two similar sized drone submarines and is testing them together in the South China Sea near Hainan.

China Moves Two Super-Sized 'XXL' Uncrewed Submarines To South China Sea - Naval News
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top