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[koxinga]

Well then, this is a surprise. AIM-424 “Malice” air-to-air missile, two stage long range AAM.

U.S. Navy Testing New Long-Range Air-to-Air Missile | Aviation Week

The U.S. Navy is developing and currently flight testing a new long-range air-to-air missile that will far exceed the capabilities of the AIM-120 and likely the recently disclosed AIM-174B as well.

aviationweek.com

 

[MARKMILES77]

Well then, this is a surprise. AIM-424 “Malice” air-to-air missile, two stage long range AAM.

U.S. Navy Testing New Long-Range Air-to-Air Missile | Aviation Week

The U.S. Navy is developing and currently flight testing a new long-range air-to-air missile that will far exceed the capabilities of the AIM-120 and likely the recently disclosed AIM-174B as well.

aviationweek.com

Presumably much longer range than AIM-260, otherwise the US Navy probably would not incur the expense of another new air to air missile.
And another missile which likely is compatible with launch from NASAMS.
Being test flown on F-18E/F as well as F-35C.

OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) on X

The U.S. Navy has publicly disclosed a previously unannounced AIM-424 Long Range Air-to-Air Missile (LRAAM), also known as the "Malice", revealing the weapon mounted inside the internal weapons bay of an F-35C Lightning II with an AIM-120 AMRAAM mounted on the bay door. The Navy

x.com

 

[koxinga]

Some numbers from the Navy.

Primary Function: Air-to-Air Missile

Contractor: Raytheon

Propulsion: Solid-propellant rocket motor

Length: 13.5 feet (4.11 meters)

Diameter: 13.5 inches (0.34 meters)

Wingspan: 26.2 inches (0.67 meters)

Weight: 1500 pounds (680.4 kg)

Range: In excess of 250 nm (463 km)

Warhead: Blast fragmentation

https://www.navy.mil/Resources/Fact-Files/Display-FactFiles/Article/4580867/aim-424-lraam-malice/

 

[StobieWan]

If true, this will be another vote getter for the Democrats. GOP candidates will significant numbers of black voters must be pi$$ed.

That's next-level contempt for history. Utterly disgusting if it's true. I did think there was a convention about not naming carriers after serving presidents but then again, even if there were, the current administration hasn't been much inclined to follow tradition.

It may be click-bait however - Snopes is calling it "unrated" right now.

 

[south]

Presumably much longer range than AIM-260, otherwise the US Navy probably would not incur the expense of another new air to air missile.
And another missile which likely is compatible with launch from NASAMS.
Being test flown on F-18E/F as well as F-35C.
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OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) on X

The U.S. Navy has publicly disclosed a previously unannounced AIM-424 Long Range Air-to-Air Missile (LRAAM), also known as the "Malice", revealing the weapon mounted inside the internal weapons bay of an F-35C Lightning II with an AIM-120 AMRAAM mounted on the bay door. The Navy

x.com

Not everything is going to be, nor does it need to be, launched from NASAMs.

While getting something like Patriot/THAAD or SM-2/6 should be a priority, there is a larger and growing gap at the low end of the mix that shooting surface based AIM-120 at (let alone the AIM-424) is not economical.

 

[Terran]

That's next-level contempt for history. Utterly disgusting if it's true. I did think there was a convention about not naming carriers after serving presidents but then again, even if there were, the current administration hasn't been much inclined to follow tradition.

It may be click-bait however - Snopes is calling it "unrated" right now.

For good reason at the moment it is click bait.. The origin is a CNN article that sources from an unnamed leaker. We have no idea who’s leaking or the validity of said leak.
This could be a thing, it could be someone close to it reporting or it could be a rumor. Heck it could even be a lie meant to smear or it might have been an actual thing leaked to test how it would go over with the Public.
Without documentation or statements confirming or denying via the Department of war, Department of Navy, Executive Branch its a thing that does nothing but inflame emotions. With those partisan against the Trump admin picking it up as a rally cry.

 

[John Fedup]

For good reason at the moment it is click bait.. The origin is a CNN article that sources from an unnamed leaker. We have no idea who’s leaking or the validity of said leak.
This could be a thing, it could be someone close to it reporting or it could be a rumor. Heck it could even be a lie meant to smear or it might have been an actual thing leaked to test how it would go over with the Public.
Without documentation or statements confirming or denying via the Department of war, Department of Navy, Executive Branch its a thing that does nothing but inflame emotions. With those partisan against the Trump admin picking it up as a rally cry.

Might not matter if proposed changes to the Ford CVN design (EMALS, AAG removal, island relocation) actually happen. There won't be a 4th CVN any time soon to name as most of us on this site won't be around.

 

[Terran]

Might not matter if proposed changes to the Ford CVN design (EMALS, AAG removal, island relocation) actually happen. There won't be a 4th CVN any time soon to name as most of us on this site won't be around.

I doubt they will happen. The Steam Cats and recovery system isn’t in production and ended with the last of the Nimitz class. The same problem for the elevators. The island changes would require a complete change to the design and would cost a fortune for no benefit other than it looks good.

 

[John Fedup]

I doubt they will happen. The Steam Cats and recovery system isn’t in production and ended with the last of the Nimitz class. The same problem for the elevators. The island changes would require a complete change to the design and would cost a fortune for no benefit other than it looks good.

One can only hope wrt EMALS. As for the island, perhaps painting it orange will appease the IOTUS.

 

[Redshift]

For good reason at the moment it is click bait.. The origin is a CNN article that sources from an unnamed leaker. We have no idea who’s leaking or the validity of said leak.
This could be a thing, it could be someone close to it reporting or it could be a rumor. Heck it could even be a lie meant to smear or it might have been an actual thing leaked to test how it would go over with the Public.
Without documentation or statements confirming or denying via the Department of war, Department of Navy, Executive Branch its a thing that does nothing but inflame emotions. With those partisan against the Trump admin picking it up as a rally cry.

He has put or had put by others his name on virtually everything else in the USA so it's probably a bit more than a rumour don't you think? Has anyone other President behaved this way?

 

[Terran]

He has put or had put by others his name on virtually everything else in the USA so it's probably a bit more than a rumour don't you think? Has anyone other President behaved this way?

If you want me to say he’s a Narcissist. Yeah he his. He literally has buildings with his name in 50ft. Golden letters.
But for the Carrier? His first Administration Trump 45 was the one that put forward CVN81for the Dorris Miller name. Historically Enlisted men don’t get Carrier namesake as their honor, they get Frigates Destroyers and Cutters.
Second he wants the Trump class Super Dreadnaught space battleship to take his name.
now is it more than a rumor? It’s Tuesday as I write this and nothing more as come out.
until and unless we get a statement from the Government we should hold judgement.

 

[motokah]

After a record 250 days at sea without a port stop, the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln has docked in Thailand, giving its nearly 5,000 crew members a much-needed R&R.

The big ship certainly looks like it need extended maintenance.

@CNN

USS Abraham Lincoln arrives in Thailand after roughly nine months at sea

The aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln arrived in Thailand on Wednesday, ending a marathon stint in the Middle East that raised concerns about the welfare ...

www.youtube.com

@BBC
BBC - US sailors arrive in Thailand's Pattaya after record 250 days at sea

Edit: Add pictures from APnews.

 

[John Fedup]

After a record 250 days at sea without a port stop, the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln has docked in Thailand, giving its nearly 5,000 crew members a much-needed R&R.

The big ship certainly looks like it need extended maintenance.

@CNN

USS Abraham Lincoln arrives in Thailand after roughly nine months at sea

The aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln arrived in Thailand on Wednesday, ending a marathon stint in the Middle East that raised concerns about the welfare ...

www.youtube.com

@BBC
BBC - US sailors arrive in Thailand's Pattaya after record 250 days at sea

The bars will be busy.

 

[Rob c]

The bars will be busy.

Not the only thing I would suspect.

 

[StobieWan]

Ok:

US Navy considers overseas-built frigates in major policy shift - Navy Lookout

The US Navy is looking at frigate designs from Japan, South Korea and Turkey as it searches for a faster way to rebuild its surface fleet. The most radical option could see the first few vessels constructed overseas before production moves to the United States. USNI News reports that the...

www.navylookout.com

3 frigates under construction for foreign build initially, transferring to US soil for serial production. Which begs the question, if you're only building the first two in class in foreign yards, why do you need scale and volume in those foreign yards?

Also, chances of the design surviving contact with the USN's chronic inability to build anything without tinkering while they're cutting steel on the first in class ?

 

[John Fedup]

Not the only thing I would suspect.

No doubt about that either

 

[koxinga]

Ok:

US Navy considers overseas-built frigates in major policy shift - Navy Lookout

The US Navy is looking at frigate designs from Japan, South Korea and Turkey as it searches for a faster way to rebuild its surface fleet. The most radical option could see the first few vessels constructed overseas before production moves to the United States. USNI News reports that the...

www.navylookout.com

3 frigates under construction for foreign build initially, transferring to US soil for serial production. Which begs the question, if you're only building the first two in class in foreign yards, why do you need scale and volume in those foreign yards?

Also, chances of the design surviving contact with the USN's chronic inability to build anything without tinkering while they're cutting steel on the first in class ?

Aside to whether this will actually past Congress, the notable snub/omission of European yards in that list are very pronounced.

No BAe, TKMS, GNKY Naval Group, CNM, Finacantieri, Saab etc.

 

[Volkodav]

I wonder what impact these long deployments will have on maintenance and service life going forward.

The current US fleet age is already about the oldest it has ever been, but now they are being run into the ground while replacement projects are being deferred, cancelled and changed.

 

[Redshift]

Aside to whether this will actually past Congress, the notable snub/omission of European yards in that list are very pronounced.

No BAe, TKMS, GNKY Naval Group, CNM, Finacantieri, Saab etc.

No capacity in any UK yards whatsoever

 

[StobieWan]

Aside to whether this will actually past Congress, the notable snub/omission of European yards in that list are very pronounced.

No BAe, TKMS, GNKY Naval Group, CNM, Finacantieri, Saab etc.

If they want volume, Japan and S Korea make sense - Turkey is an odd one, given the security situation - I mean, Trump and Vance keep insisting the UK is a nuclear armed Islamic republic, so why place business with Turkey ?

Again, don't know why they insist on volume if they're shifting production to inside the US however.