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[swerve]

One of the supposed disagreements is a claim that the USA is saying that UAE F-35s must be limited so that they can't pose a threat to Israel. I've not seen any details of what exactly that means. The weapons to be carried? Limits to sensors? Degradation of stealth? No idea.

This reminds me of the limits to the weapons that the USA would sell the UAE 20 odd years ago. So the UAE bought slightly modified Scalps, which blew a hole in the limit.

 

[STURM]

In the past certain things sold to Arab countries had downgraded capabilities. In the case of fighters this usually involved downgraded radars and EW.

If I recall correctly M-1s sold to Saudi did not have DU armour and the E-3s too were downgraded quite a bit.

I don't blame the Emiratis for kicking a fuss. They are after all paying in hard cash, have been a good customer for U.S. gear over the years, have never been interested in picking a fight with Israel and are in agreement with the U S. on most issues. If the Americans are unable to be flexible it's their lost. This time around however there will probably be less opposition from the pro Israeli lobby. Remains to be see if that changes with regards to future sales in the coming years, in the event UAE/Iran ties improve.

The UAE wants a mix of European and American because it makes them less reliant on any one source and buying from both cements the bilateral relationship with both. A major logistical/support nightmare but then they can afford it. It's the strain on manpower which is the main issue I suppose, having 2 create and maintain a training/support infrasructure for Rafales and F-35, on top of what already is being operated.

 

[Feanor]

Updates.

There are reports that the VVS took delivery of 4 Su-57s, as originally planned. Full confirmation is pending. The VVS also received 4 additional Su-34s (for a total of 8 this year) and 3 Su-35S. Both the Su-34 and Su-35 are part of add-on buys likely connected to delays in the Su-34M and Su-57 programs respectively. It's also been stated that Su-34 regiments are planned to transition to a 3-squadron structure (36 jets per regiments). This is despite some units still operating Su-24s.

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В Липецк прибыли новые бомбардировщики Су-34

Как сообщил 22 декабря 2021 года Департамент информации и массовых коммуникаций Министерства обороны Российской Федерации, в дислоцированный в Липецке Государственный центр подготовки авиационного персонала и войсковых испытаний Министерства обороны России поступила партия бомбардировщиков Су-34.…

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ВКС России получили первые в 2021 году истребители Су-35С

Как сообщил 13 декабря 2021 года Департамент информации и массовых коммуникаций Министерства обороны Российской Федерации, партия новейших многоцелевых истребителей Су-35С поступила в Государственный центр подготовки авиационного персонала и войсковых испытаний Министерства обороны России,…

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ВКС России получили первые в 2021 году фронтовые бомбардировщики Су-34

Как сообщила 7 декабря 2021 года пресс-служба Восточного военного округа, в бомбардировочную авиационную часть объединения ВВС и ПВО Восточного военного округа (ВВО), дислоцированную в Хабаровском крае, в минувшем месяце поступили несколько новых многоцелевых бомбардировщиков Су-34. В ближайшее…

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В авиаполках Су-34 сформируют дополнительные эскадрильи

Минобороны России приняло решение сформировать в вооруженных Су-34 авиаполках дополнительные, третьи эскадрильи. Новые машины туда будут поставляться в модернизированном варианте Су-34 НВО, рассказали «Известиям» источники в военном ведомстве.Новый вариант сможет эффективнее вести...

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15 Ka-52Ms are planned for delivery in 2022. The type had been tested with new munitions and improvements to the electronics. It's likely we will also see a radar upgrade.

Источник: 15 новейших Ка-52М поступят на вооружение в следующем году

Первые 15 новейших боевых вертолетов Ка-52М поступят на вооружение российской армии в 2022 году, сообщил РИА Новости источник в авиастроительной отрасли... РИА Новости, 29.11.2021

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The VVS also took delivery of the 7th A-50U, with the 8th aircraft planned in 2023. The program is moving at a glacial pace, and AEW is one of the major deficiencies the VVS faces.

ВКС России получили седьмой модернизированный самолет А-50У

Как сообщила 29 декабря 2021 года Госкорпорация Ростех, дочерние структуры Госкорпорации Ростех концерн Вега холдинга Росэлектроника и ПАО Таганрогский авиационный научно-технический комплекс имени Г. М. Бериева (ТАНТК им. Г.М. Бериева) …

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«Ростех» передал ВКС России очередной модернизированный самолет ДРЛО

ВКС России получили очередной обновленный самолет ДРЛО А-50У. Передачу «летающего радара» в войска накануне осуществили концерн «Вега» и ТАНТК им. Г.М. Бериева (оба предприятия являются структурной единицей госкорпорации «Ростех»). Стоит отметить, что это уже седьмая машина, поступившая в ВКС РФ в

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Some footage of the Buk-M3 from the 53rd air defense bde.

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The first upgraded An-124-100M has conducted it's first flight since the upgrades. The upgrade includes new avionics, a protection suite from MANPADS, and a replacement of some foreign components. It's an open question how many aircraft the VVS plans to overhaul and upgrade. Currently they don't use their entire fleet, some are sitting inactive. The type did see active use during operations in Syria.

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The 210th air defense regiment took a delivery of S-400s. Instead of replacing older S-300s in this case it's replacing another set of S-400s. The regiment was part of training exercises in Belarus and appears to have left behind one of its btln equipment sets for the Belarussians. The handover is likely permanent since they're taking deliveries of replacements.

210-й зенитно-ракетный полк получил новый комплект ЗРС С-400

23 декабря 2021 г. 210-й зенитно-ракетный полк (г.Дмитров , Московская область) получил новый комплект зенитно-ракетной системы С-400. Новый комплект поставлен в 210-й зрп для замены выбывшей матчасти . В ходе стратегических учений Запад-2021 полк был переброшен в Белоруссию, откуда…

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Trials of the long range Altius UAV have completed. It's unclear whether this refers to state trials or factory trials.

Завершены испытания беспилотника большой дальности "Альтиус-РУ"

Испытания беспилотного летательного аппарата (БПЛА) большой дальности "Альтиус-РУ" завершены.

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Trials of an Orion variant carrying a radar under the fuselage are due to complete by the end of this year (2022).

Источник: испытания БЛА-разведчика на базе "Ориона" должны завершиться до конца 2022 года

По словам собеседника агентства, беспилотник способен проводить разведку ПВО и ПРО

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Some interesting footage of the Forpost-R (a domesticated upgrade of the Searcher MK2) dropping a KAB-20 small-sized PGM, and of the S-70 dropping an unspecified munition.

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Some footage of the Orion UCAV shooting down a helicopter UAV target type with a modified Kornet missile.

Воздушный бой дронов

Министерство обороны РФ устроило на полигоне в Крыму воздушный бой дронов, в ходе которого беспилотник Орион с 4 км. сбил управляемой ракетой БПЛА вертолетного типа. Впервые военное ведомство заявляет о том, что российские беспилотники обладают возможностями истребителя и могут…

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Минобороны показало поражение воздушной цели пуском ПТУР 9М133ФМ-3 с БпЛА «Иноходец-БЛА».

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An entire regiment of MiG-31s has been formed for carrying the Kinzhal RS-74 air-launched ballistic hypersonic missile. Personally I wonder how worth-while is it to keep an entire fighter regiment from being used for anything other then a single type of mission with a single munition. The new index for RS-74M carries is MiG-31IK.

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The Mi-171A3 has had it's first flight. This modification is meant for use on off-shore drilling platforms. The venerable Mi-8 family remains a popular machine on both civilian and military markets.

Первый полет вертолета Ми-171А3

Как сообщила 16 декабря 2021 года Госкорпорация Ростех, первый летный опытный образец нового многоцелевого вертолета Ми-171А3, разработанный холдингом Вертолеты России Госкорпорации Ростех, приступил к летным испытаниям. Первый полет в режиме висения длился 15 минут и прошел штатно,…

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3 Pantsyr btlns were planned for hand over in 2021. It's unclear whether this took place. The term btln also caught my attention, as normally it's 1 Pantsyr battery per S-300/400 btln. It's possible that they're moving to a separate Pantsyr btln in each air defense regiment (which for 2 btln regiments would mean a spare battery of SHORAD).

Три дивизионных комплекта "Панцирь-С" поступят в российскую армию до конца года

Заместитель главнокомандующего ВКС РФ Андрей Демин отметил, что в радиотехнические войска в 2021 году поступило более 20 образцов вооружения, способных обнаруживать весь спектр воздушных объектов, в том числе гиперзвуковых и выполненных по технологии "стелс"

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The famous airbase in Voronezh region, nicknamed Baltimore, has completed a rebuild and is receiving aircraft again. It's home to the 47th bomber regiment flying Su-34s. The Su-34 is of course not a bomber but a strike fighter, something the VVS is well aware of. During the crisis in Syria in 2015, Su-34s flew defensive counter-air, armed with R-27s and R-73s, and this very 47th regiment has been spotted doing assymetric air-to-air combat training against the MiG-29SMTs in Kursk.

Возвращение в Балтимор

Как сообщила 24 ноября 2021 года пресс-служба Западного военного округа, в Воронеже состоялась торжественная церемония открытия аэродрома Балтимор после реконструкции. На аэродром уже перебазировались первые 17 истребителей-бомбардировщиков Су-34 Ленинградской армии ВВС и ПВО Западного военного…

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[Sandhi Yudha]

Russia has flown the first newly built Tupolev Tu-160M strategic bomber to roll of its newly reconstituted production line for the first time at Kazan Aviation Plant on 12 January 2022.

Первый вновь построенный ракетоносец Ту-160М совершил дебютный полет

Первый построенный в России с нуля стратегический сверхзвуковой бомбардировщик-ракетоносец Ту-160М совершил дебютный полет, сообщили в "Ростехе". РИА Новости, 12.01.2022

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Russia flies newbuild Tu-160M bomber

Russia has flown the first Tupolev Tu-160M ‘Blackjack' strategic bomber to roll of its newly reconstituted production line.

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[Dino van Doorn]

The crews of the Su-35S multi-role fighters of the Eastern Military District, involved in checking the response forces of the Russian Federation to relocate their SU-35S Fighter aircraft to Belarusian airfields. During the flight, the crews made a fuelstop at the airfields of the Central and Western military districts to prepare for the next flight and some rest for the crews. Flight routes of multifunctional fighters are carefully worked out by aviation navigators and take into account the possibility of maximum non-stop flight of aircraft, as well as weather conditions along the entire route. After arriving at the airfields of the Republic of Belarus, the crews of the Su-35S multifunctional fighters will take up combat duty for air defense as part of checking the functioning of the unified air defense system of the Union State. Video credit: Ministry of Defense of Russia
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[Dino van Doorn]

I have never seen this before by a Mi-8 Chopper !!

The crews of the Mi-8AMTSh transport and combat helicopters of the aviation regiment of the Central Military District practiced bombing attacks on the positions of a mock enemy at a training ground in the Kurgan region. Pilots of Mi-8AMTSh transport and combat helicopters dropped about 20 air to ground bombs, operating at extremely low altitudes up to 300 meters in day and night time. When delivering bombing strikes, the crews calculated in advance the point of dropping air bombs, taking into account the speed and altitude of the flight for accurate hitting targets. In addition, the pilots of the Mi-8AMTSh transport and combat helicopters performed maneuvers to evade the air defense systems of a mock enemy by releasing flares, as well as air navigation, aerial reconnaissance and determining the coordinates of ground targets. Video credit: Ministry of Defense of Russia

 

[Dino van Doorn]

Scheduled training flights of Tu-95MS strategic missile carriers were carried out. The crews worked out their piloting techniques, takeoffs and landings in low temperatures. Particular attention was paid to aerial refueling, which took place in limited conditions during day and night time Video credit: Ministry of Defense of Russia
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[Ananda]

Russia to launch Su-75 Checkmate production in 2027, Rostec says

Sukhoi's Su-75 Checkmate fighter will enter serial production in 2027, state-owned conglomerate Rostec says, indicating a delay from a target outlined by Russia's United Aircraft late last year.

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Rostec claim will launch Su-75 production in 2027. This is already a push back date line from previous one. Even this will have to be seen, as Russia schedulle for Su-57 production is still not run on full rate yet.

Russia anyway wants to shown that Western effort on sanctions them for high tech access will not hindered them on their Military Industrial Complex (MIC) development.

 

[T.C.P]

Russia to launch Su-75 Checkmate production in 2027, Rostec says

Sukhoi's Su-75 Checkmate fighter will enter serial production in 2027, state-owned conglomerate Rostec says, indicating a delay from a target outlined by Russia's United Aircraft late last year.

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Rostec claim will launch Su-75 production in 2027. This is already a push back date line from previous one. Even this will have to be seen, as Russia schedulle for Su-57 production is still not run on full rate yet.

Russia anyway wants to shown that Western effort on sanctions them for high tech access will not hindered them on their Military Industrial Complex (MIC) development.

Man I find this situation so funny and so Russian. Remember the mid 2000s. Russia had the so called SU-35, Su-37, Mig-33 and Mig-35 as the world's top dog fighters but not a single one was even in production and 3 of the 4 did not even exist. Their defense export Marketting team lives 20 years into the future and that too a future only they can see.

How many SU-57s have they even produced by now?

 

[John Fedup]

Man I find this situation so funny and so Russian. Remember the mid 2000s. Russia had the so called SU-35, Su-37, Mig-33 and Mig-35 as the world's top dog fighters but not a single one was even in production and 3 of the 4 did not even exist. Their defense export Marketting team lives 20 years into the future and that too a future only they can see.

How many SU-57s have they even produced by now?

Wikipedia says 10 test jets and 5 production jets for what it is worth. Five airforce jets compared to China’s 100 plus J-20s and the USA’s 150 plus Raptors and hundreds of F-35s. Given Russia’s economic outlook and continuing sanctions their Su-57 fleet won’t be expanding very much anytime soon.

 

[Ranger25]

Agreed, getting mixed messages in the media regarding sanctions impacting manufacturing including PGMs/Kalibre etc. would have to think the industry wide sanctions would impact 5th gen fighter production for sure

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The serial production of the Okhotnik (Hunter) heavy strike drone will begin in 2023. The production version of the Okhotnik will feature a flat nozzle thruster that makes it less visible for radars, and also a new ground control post is being created for the new UCAV.

We will see if the embargoes and other sanctions will slow down this program or not.
Russia to launch serial production of Okhotnik heavy attack drones in 2023 - Military & Defense - TASS

 

[Ananda]

PAK-DA: Russia's New Stealth Bomber That May Never Fly

Russia has finished a full-size wooden mock-up of the PAK-DA airframe. And the first prototype is allegedly nearing completion.

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There's always western media (whether mainstream or independent online ones) that put doubt on Russian abilities to continue their advance tech projects, due to sanctions.

However we in financial Market also see Western media and Politicians prediction on their sanctions to Russia, somewhat overestimating so far. Yes there are slow down, but also not as much as Western wants.

The question that nobody in the West can actually honestly answer is, how far Russification on the high tech industry able to do so far. Russian off course claim close to 100%, while the West always claim Russian will not going to be able to replace tech from West and allies.

So the effect on economy downturn due to sanctions is there. However this sanction is also double edge sword to Western economy (something that I already put since early March on Russia-West thread).

Thus the sanction will push back some of their schedule is definitely happen. However whether able stop Russian program as many in West claim, well so far it is also overestimating Western power on Russian too.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Time will tell if the Russians are able to follow their planning and succeed in starting serial production of the PAK-DA in 2027. I have the feeling that they are overoptimistic, even with the larger budgets like from china or the US, development of a new strategic bomber, takes many years from start assembly first prototype until IOC. Just look to Russia's other aerospace programs like Il-112 or their space probe programs like Luna-Glob and Venera-D, planned for decades but delayed over and over again.



Here we can see some overviews of what seems to be the schedule of the production of all the aircrafts types.
We can expect a continues flow of Il-76/78, SSJ, Mi-8/17, Ansat and Ka-62, and the Ty-214 and Il-96 will be returned into production. Also a modernized variant of the Il-114 will go in full production as the Il-114-300. No information yet about the Il-112 or Il-276.

They also plan to construct under licence 20 L-410 each year. The Technoavia Rysachok was planned as a twin-engine replacement for the An-2, that program is cancelled. Now Russia is working on a 9-passenger single engine replacement for the An-2: the LMS-901. The problem with the L-410, Rysachok and LMS-901 is however, that they all use the GE/Walter H80. The H80 is an updated derivative of the Czech Walter M601, and this will cause undoubtly problems after the war in Ukraina.

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The remarkable thing is the production plans for the Ka-226, until 2030 just one.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

On 27 May 2022, the fifth and sixth series production Sukhoi Su-57 fighter aircraft were photographed by Russian spotters during their refuelling stop at Novosibirsk-Tolmachevo airport. These two Sukhois are part of a contract for the supply of 76 fifth-generation Su-57 fighters to the Russian Air Force, including the first two that were contracted in 2018, with final deliveries by 2027.

More new Russian Su-57s

More new Russian Su-57s On 27 May 2022, the fifth and sixth series production Sukhoi Su-57 fighter aircraft were photographed by Russian spotters during their refuelling stop at No...

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[swerve]

...The question that nobody in the West can actually honestly answer is, how far Russification on the high tech industry able to do so far. Russian off course claim close to 100%, while the West always claim Russian will not going to be able to replace tech from West and allies....

I'm sure the Russians can replace things such as western chips, though the systems the chips are in may need some redesign. Their problem will be matching the performance.

 

[Feanor]

The remarkable thing is the production plans for the Ka-226, until 2030 just one.

I think the Ka-226 got pushed out by the Ansat for domestic light helo procurement. It also remains to be seen what happens with the India deal. These plans are written in pitchfork on water, between the war in Ukraine, domestic economic problems, potential export contracts, etc.

 

[Feanor]

Update.

The VVS received another new Il-76MD-90A and an upgraded Il-76MDM. Production of both is slow but the need for them is not that great.

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Russia has shown off a Mi-28NM that's upgraded from the current format rather then newly built. It makes sense to both upgrade existing inventory and produce new ones.

Модернизированный вариант вертолёта Ми-28Н

Как сообщает издание Взлёт , на Международном военно-техническом форуме Армия-2022 холдинг Вертолеты России впервые представлил на аэродроме Кубинка новый вариант модернизации армейского боевого вертолета Ми-28Н. Он предусматривает доработку ранее…

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The UAC has proposed a two-seater Su-57 variant for the VVS. I suspect this will have to go ahead, as (if? given sactions) Russia begins to actually transition to the type.

ОАК предложила Минобороны двухместный вариант многоцелевого истребителя Су-57

Российский многоцелевой истребитель пятого поколения Су-57 может получить двухместную версию, переговоры между ОАК и Минобороны о создании новой модификации самолета находятся в активной фазе. Об этом сообщил генеральный директор ОАК Юрий Слюсарь. Объединенная авиастроительная корпорация

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The 42nd Air Defense Rgt received S-400s. The type now likely outnumbers S-300s in Russian service, and if production can continue despite sanctions, it will likely end with the S-300 being completely phased out by the end of the decade, at least in the VKS.

42-й зенитный ракетный полк получил на вооружение зенитную ракетную систему С-400

Оригинал взят у коллеги altyn73 в 42-й зенитный ракетный полк получил на вооружении ЗРС С-400 Согласно сообщению Минобороны РФ , в Новгородской области боевые расчеты С-400 Триумф Западного военного округа проводят тренировки по ведению противовоздушных боев. В Новгородской области…

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The VVS have received 4 new Su-34Ms. It's unclear if this is actual Su-34M or the in-between variant ordered as the Su-34M neared completion. Either way they're much needed given the demands of the current war and the losses taken.

ВКС России получили первые в 2022 году фронтовые бомбардировщики Су-34М

Как сообщила 4 июля 2022 года пресс-служба Восточного военного округа, в бомбардировочную авиачасть армии ВВС и ПВО Восточного военного округа, дислоцированную в Хабаровском крае, в конце прошлого месяца [июня] поступили несколько новых модернизированных многоцелевых бомбардировщиков Су-34М. Один…

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[Feanor]

Update.

A piece of old news that I missed, the A-100 had its first flight with the radar turned on prior to the current war starting.

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Первый полет самолета А-100 с включенным бортовым радиотехническим комплексом

Как сообщило 10 февраля 2022 года ПАО Объединенная авистроительная корпорация, АО Концерн радиостроения Вега холдинга Росэлектроника и ПАО Таганрогский авиационный научно-технический комплекс имени Г. М. Бериева (ТАНТК им.…

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Красоты в ленту

РИО Новости выкатило фото нового самолета ДРЛОиУ А-100 - так понимаю, к первому полету с включением бортового РЛ-комплекса - вчерась. Кстати, заодно и покрасили. Пустячок-с, а приятно. Кстати, по странному стечению обстоятельств вчера также был юбилей - 50 лет первому полету американского Е-3…

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The first Su-25UTG was rebuilt prior to this war, after a gap of many years. This is an Su-25-based trained for carrier pilots.

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A satcom variant of the Orion-S is being developed. This would in principle greatly extend their range, but in the current war I suspect survivability is a bigger issue.

Спутниковая система связи для российских беспилотных летательных аппаратов

Как уже сообщал наш блог, во время посещения 27 января 2022 года Министром обороны Российской Федерации Сергеем Шойгу первого в России специализированного завода по по производству крупноразмерных военных беспилотных летательных аппаратов, построенного АО Кронштадт в подмосковной…

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More Su-35S are being produced for the VVS. At least 5 so far this year.

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В Комсомольске-на-Амуре на крыло встал новый Су-35. Судя по бортовому номеру - 05 - изготовлена минимум пара Су-35-х для ВКС. Недавно в ВКС были переданы как раз бортовые номера синий 01-03... На дальнем плане видны якобы египетские Су-35 на хранении... От туда в…

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Also more Su-34s. Quite a few were lost in the war, so production to replace losses is important. Russia had an intermediate upgrade variant without an official name, and an Su-34M. It's unclear which variant this is.

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The 4th Il-76MD-90A has been produced for the VVS this year. Production of the type has finally gone beyond 1-2 aircraft per year, but the need for the type remains questionable.

Взлетел четвертый построенный в 2022 году самолет Ил-76МД-90А

Как сообщают, 5 ноября 2022 года на заводском аэродромном комплексе Ульяновск-Восточный начались летные испытания построенного на ульяновском филиале ПАО Ил - Авиастар (входит в состав ПАО Объединенная авиастроительная корпорация Госкорпорации…

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Two Okhotniks are visible in a satellite photo at the same time. The program appears to be progressing, and might give Russia another VLO platform, desperately needed in the current war.

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[Vivendi]

A summary of the total number of new-build tactical fixed-wing combat aircraft that are known to have been delivered to the Russian MoD in 2022:
1. Su-57: 8 (VKS)
2. Su-35S: 6-7 (VKS)
3. Su-34M: 10-12 (VKS)
4. Su-30SM2: 4 (Naval Aviation)
Total: 28-31

Losses so far in Ukrainian war:

18 Su-34s & 9 Su-24M/MRs (total 27)
11 Su-30SMs & 1 Su-35S (total 12)
23 Su-25-series ground attack aircraft and one MiG-31BM interceptor.

Source:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1610924593358962689

So even if they have produced more than I would have expected in spite of sanctions, their losses have also been quite significant.

Does anybody know the situation for Russian export aircraft for 2022?