Vietnamese Air Power
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i found this http://www.worldairforces.com/Countries/vietnam/vtn.html i think its an order of battle but i can't make much sense of it i wondered what everybody else thought
marxist_command
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HEy, that's quite interesting. I think nobody cares about That thing. I looked at the site u put but it didn't give me any clueskilo said:
contedicavour
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The article provided in the link is pretty accurate after all. It basically says :kilo said:if anyone could give me the current OrBAT of the vietnamese air force/naval aviation plus procurement plans for new aircraft that would be great. Also does anyone know the stae of repair/availability of spare parts and weapons of those aircraft.
> 12 SU-27/30
> 190 SU-22 of different versions
> still a hundred South Vietnam-vintage F-5s though I doubt these still fly
> more than 300 MIG-21s of different versions
> 2 dozen L-39 trainers
Without forgetting older Su-19 and MIG-15/17 which are worthy of a museum.
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contedicavour
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Thanks for the detailed and accurate answerandrei said:
Apart from the few Flankers with the AA12 this looks like an obsolete air force.
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marxist_command
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140? Sure is quantity type. Isn't it a little reckless to use mig-21 now? Don't want any pilot die right? BTW do they have any modernization nearby?andrei said:
itanium7000
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Vietnamese Air-Force have not AA-12 missle.andrei said:
Here is an article on the Vietnamese air force. The original is in German. The English translation is courtesy of Babel Fish so don't laugh.
Kon Quan Nhan Dan Viet Nam (Luftwaffe der vietnamesischen Volksarmee)
The Babel Fish translation:
The efforts of China did not remain unnoticed and in Viet Nam found likewise fallen to the Su-27, which appear in the best way suitable around the strategic interests Hanois in the southChinese sea to protect. 1994 was supplied the first six machines, 1995 further six Su-27 were ordered. In the meantime the Vietnamesi Air Force has 14 machines in the service (11xSK, 3xUBK) and further 24 is ordered. Vietnamesi considerations within the next 6-8 years around altogether 36-60 machines of the types Su-27 and Su-30 to supplement stand in the area. Together with modernized Su-22 "Fitter" fighter-bombers and at expense of the number of items of smaller fighters, as for instance the Mig-21, which can be inserted for lack of range if necessary over the territorial waters of the mainland, one with the Flankern each opponent within the range of the Paracelsus and Spratly islands, including one "to curious" US Navy thinks to have grown.
The original in German:
Die Bemühungen Chinas blieben nicht unbemerkt und in Vietnam fand ebenfalls gefallen an der Su-27, welche bestens geeignet erscheint um die strategischen Interessen Hanois im südchinesischen Meer zu wahren. 1994 wurden die ersten sechs Maschinen geliefert, 1995 weitere sechs Su-27 geordert. Inzwischen hat die Vietnamesische Luftwaffe 14 Maschinen im Dienst (11xSK, 3xUBK) und weitere 24 sind bestellt. Vietnamesische Überlegungen innerhalb der nächsten 6-8 Jahre um insgesamt 36-60 Maschinen der Typen Su-27 und Su-30 aufzustocken stehen im Raum.
Gemeinsam mit modernisierten Su-22 "Fitter" Jagdbombern und auf Kosten der Stückzahl kleinerer Jagdflugzeuge, wie etwa der Mig-21, welche mangels Reichweite allenfalls über den Küstengewässern des Festlandes eingesetzt werden können, denkt man mit den Flankern jedem Gegner im Bereich der Paracelsus und Spratly Inseln, inklusive einer "zu neugierigen" US-Navy, gewachsen zu sein.
http://www.airpower.at/news04/0706_flanker/asien.htm
Here is a link for another listing of their aircraft inventory:
http://www.fighter-jets.de/index.php?lang=e
Kon Quan Nhan Dan Viet Nam (Luftwaffe der vietnamesischen Volksarmee)
The Babel Fish translation:
The efforts of China did not remain unnoticed and in Viet Nam found likewise fallen to the Su-27, which appear in the best way suitable around the strategic interests Hanois in the southChinese sea to protect. 1994 was supplied the first six machines, 1995 further six Su-27 were ordered. In the meantime the Vietnamesi Air Force has 14 machines in the service (11xSK, 3xUBK) and further 24 is ordered. Vietnamesi considerations within the next 6-8 years around altogether 36-60 machines of the types Su-27 and Su-30 to supplement stand in the area. Together with modernized Su-22 "Fitter" fighter-bombers and at expense of the number of items of smaller fighters, as for instance the Mig-21, which can be inserted for lack of range if necessary over the territorial waters of the mainland, one with the Flankern each opponent within the range of the Paracelsus and Spratly islands, including one "to curious" US Navy thinks to have grown.
The original in German:
Die Bemühungen Chinas blieben nicht unbemerkt und in Vietnam fand ebenfalls gefallen an der Su-27, welche bestens geeignet erscheint um die strategischen Interessen Hanois im südchinesischen Meer zu wahren. 1994 wurden die ersten sechs Maschinen geliefert, 1995 weitere sechs Su-27 geordert. Inzwischen hat die Vietnamesische Luftwaffe 14 Maschinen im Dienst (11xSK, 3xUBK) und weitere 24 sind bestellt. Vietnamesische Überlegungen innerhalb der nächsten 6-8 Jahre um insgesamt 36-60 Maschinen der Typen Su-27 und Su-30 aufzustocken stehen im Raum.
Gemeinsam mit modernisierten Su-22 "Fitter" Jagdbombern und auf Kosten der Stückzahl kleinerer Jagdflugzeuge, wie etwa der Mig-21, welche mangels Reichweite allenfalls über den Küstengewässern des Festlandes eingesetzt werden können, denkt man mit den Flankern jedem Gegner im Bereich der Paracelsus und Spratly Inseln, inklusive einer "zu neugierigen" US-Navy, gewachsen zu sein.
http://www.airpower.at/news04/0706_flanker/asien.htm
Here is a link for another listing of their aircraft inventory:
http://www.fighter-jets.de/index.php?lang=e
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To eastern pleasure their military and aerieal/air is reconciling domestic
needs via foreign free trade. It's not military alone, reciprocity to get
low with over-heated supplement
Supplied by the context, need to create a well-being both South and
North, especially with long-term military supplement.
Without wall around the country, they, the feelings should be optimistic
Vietnam land. Reclamation as ground resources are leading better
air force. No primitive man or primitive county will happily struggling incomprehensible trade agreements.
Their young country and young cooperation is as first-steps to stand alone.
Shouldn't we forget, we are not that different, to cover us all.
needs via foreign free trade. It's not military alone, reciprocity to get
low with over-heated supplement
Supplied by the context, need to create a well-being both South and
North, especially with long-term military supplement.
Without wall around the country, they, the feelings should be optimistic
Vietnam land. Reclamation as ground resources are leading better
air force. No primitive man or primitive county will happily struggling incomprehensible trade agreements.
Their young country and young cooperation is as first-steps to stand alone.
Shouldn't we forget, we are not that different, to cover us all.
Janes World Air Forces - VPAAF
Janes World Air Forces - 06/12/2007
Vietnamese Peoples Army Air Force
SU-27K Flanker B - 7
SU-30MKK Flanker - 2 (another 8 subject to option)
Mig 21 Fishbed L/N - 140
SU-22M3 Fitter H - 34
SU-22M4 Fitter K - 25
An-26 Curl - 12
An-2 Colt - 4 (many more in civil service)
L-39C Albatros - 20
SU-22UM3 Fitter G - 6
SU-27UB Flanker C - 3
Mi-24 Hind-D - 28
Mi-8/Mi-17 Hip - 55
Ka-28 Helix A - 7
Bell UH-1H - 12
Ka-32T Helix C - 2
Numerically by far the strongest air force in SE Asia. However, there is a lack of experienced air crew and low funding means that even front-line units rarely fly more than 40 flight-hours per year. Command, Control and doctrine are slowely moving away from Soviet-era tactics. Increased level of Indian influence - especially among the transport squadrons.
Janes World Air Forces - 06/12/2007
Vietnamese Peoples Army Air Force
SU-27K Flanker B - 7
SU-30MKK Flanker - 2 (another 8 subject to option)
Mig 21 Fishbed L/N - 140
SU-22M3 Fitter H - 34
SU-22M4 Fitter K - 25
An-26 Curl - 12
An-2 Colt - 4 (many more in civil service)
L-39C Albatros - 20
SU-22UM3 Fitter G - 6
SU-27UB Flanker C - 3
Mi-24 Hind-D - 28
Mi-8/Mi-17 Hip - 55
Ka-28 Helix A - 7
Bell UH-1H - 12
Ka-32T Helix C - 2
Numerically by far the strongest air force in SE Asia. However, there is a lack of experienced air crew and low funding means that even front-line units rarely fly more than 40 flight-hours per year. Command, Control and doctrine are slowely moving away from Soviet-era tactics. Increased level of Indian influence - especially among the transport squadrons.
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Here is all they have....in 2008
For today 2008 are running now.
20 Su27/ and 4 SU30 =24 pieces in service now, and 8SU27 will be delivery in late 2009. and 8 Su30 will be completed at 2010, and 24 pieces of SU30 will delivery from 2010 to 2014.
53 Su 22, they had before since soviet era ( upgraded with some advanced options)
Poland sold to them around 40 SU22 with good condition and advanced avionic completed delivery in 11/2007.
150-160 Mig21F (245) pieces 2006 ,Now =160 good condition and advance upgraded options,other need parts
you guy forgot about this
35 MIg23 very good condition russian paid for renting camranh base.
Soviet Union 5 Antonov An-30 Clank reconnaissance
Soviet Union 35 Antonov An-26 Curl
Soviet Union 16 Antonov An-24 Coke regional airliner/transport (actual number = 24) where is 8?
Soviet Union 6 Antonov An-38 - stretched version of the An-28
Poland 12 PZL M-28 Skytruck - twin-engined high-wing cantilever monoplane
Soviet Union 30 Mi-8 Hip transport helicopter
Soviet Union 16 Mi-17 Hip-H transport helicopter
Soviet Union 3 Kamov Ka-25 Hormone
Soviet Union 8 Ka-27 Helix ASW helicopter (16 pieces in delivery) ??
Russia 6 Ka-32 Kamov
United States Bell Helicopter 60 UH-1H Huey utility helicopter
Soviet Union 26 Mil Mi-24 Hind-A (actual number = 60 pieces)
France 12 SA-330J Puma civilian transport helicopter - from the Ministry of Defence
France 9 Aérospatiale Super Puma AS-332L2 transport helicopter - from the Ministry of defence
Domestic vietnamese made(sorry guy my father don't know how many)
Vietnamese Made airplane: Vietnam HL-1, HL-2, VNS-41 domestic produced amphibious light plane
Vietnam M-400 UAV
For today 2008 are running now.
20 Su27/ and 4 SU30 =24 pieces in service now, and 8SU27 will be delivery in late 2009. and 8 Su30 will be completed at 2010, and 24 pieces of SU30 will delivery from 2010 to 2014.
53 Su 22, they had before since soviet era ( upgraded with some advanced options)
Poland sold to them around 40 SU22 with good condition and advanced avionic completed delivery in 11/2007.
150-160 Mig21F (245) pieces 2006 ,Now =160 good condition and advance upgraded options,other need parts
you guy forgot about this
35 MIg23 very good condition russian paid for renting camranh base.
Soviet Union 5 Antonov An-30 Clank reconnaissance
Soviet Union 35 Antonov An-26 Curl
Soviet Union 16 Antonov An-24 Coke regional airliner/transport (actual number = 24) where is 8?
Soviet Union 6 Antonov An-38 - stretched version of the An-28
Poland 12 PZL M-28 Skytruck - twin-engined high-wing cantilever monoplane
Soviet Union 30 Mi-8 Hip transport helicopter
Soviet Union 16 Mi-17 Hip-H transport helicopter
Soviet Union 3 Kamov Ka-25 Hormone
Soviet Union 8 Ka-27 Helix ASW helicopter (16 pieces in delivery) ??
Russia 6 Ka-32 Kamov
United States Bell Helicopter 60 UH-1H Huey utility helicopter
Soviet Union 26 Mil Mi-24 Hind-A (actual number = 60 pieces)
France 12 SA-330J Puma civilian transport helicopter - from the Ministry of Defence
France 9 Aérospatiale Super Puma AS-332L2 transport helicopter - from the Ministry of defence
Domestic vietnamese made(sorry guy my father don't know how many)
Vietnamese Made airplane: Vietnam HL-1, HL-2, VNS-41 domestic produced amphibious light plane
Vietnam M-400 UAV
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contedicavour
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Very interesting data thanks for posting.
Over 50 Flankers operational already represents quite a bulwark against PLAN air force.
Do we have any data on SAMs as well ? Any S300 ?
cheers
Over 50 Flankers operational already represents quite a bulwark against PLAN air force.
Do we have any data on SAMs as well ? Any S300 ?
cheers
This information is just referrenced data, not exact 100. but may be 70
Hanoi: Vietnam today is a peaceful place, economical,polictical system are very stable ,their economics are rising up with 8.6 per year all country in the world chose vietnam as investment destinations. It will the trade rout for whole asia and the world in next 15 years. in order to do like this: Vietnamese requested 2 batteries of S300 to watch over vietnam sky and extends Sam license from Sam 3 to 18 for domestic productions. but in 2008 for my believes they have 4 batteries of 2 S300 PMU1, 2 S300 PMU2.
Ok finger yourseft...but Air-defence system, I think most pilots don't want to there. First, I don't believe..a tinny country like them still maintain 28K Anti-Aircraft Gun. and very crownded SA,4.5.6.7..14,18.
Oh I forget about this: they have some B/C scud but not over 200 of them. for my belief :90B = 300 km and 75C were upgraded from 700 km to 900 km as succeeded test from NorthVN to Central part of the country by reduced payload to extend ranges in last few years.
Hanoi: Vietnam today is a peaceful place, economical,polictical system are very stable ,their economics are rising up with 8.6 per year all country in the world chose vietnam as investment destinations. It will the trade rout for whole asia and the world in next 15 years. in order to do like this: Vietnamese requested 2 batteries of S300 to watch over vietnam sky and extends Sam license from Sam 3 to 18 for domestic productions. but in 2008 for my believes they have 4 batteries of 2 S300 PMU1, 2 S300 PMU2.
Ok finger yourseft...but Air-defence system, I think most pilots don't want to there. First, I don't believe..a tinny country like them still maintain 28K Anti-Aircraft Gun. and very crownded SA,4.5.6.7..14,18.
Oh I forget about this: they have some B/C scud but not over 200 of them. for my belief :90B = 300 km and 75C were upgraded from 700 km to 900 km as succeeded test from NorthVN to Central part of the country by reduced payload to extend ranges in last few years.
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