How Good is the J-10?
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Hard to say in comparison to those you list, especially given the West's lack of credible information on the J-10.
However, here is one of the better links on the web in regards to the J-10.
http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news095.htm
However, here is one of the better links on the web in regards to the J-10.
http://www.aeronautics.ru/news/news002/news095.htm
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I guess some just need to find comfort in the wish China didn't develop the tech itself. Hey, if it works for you ... why not ?
according to American sources, in terms of maneuverability J-10 out performs technological superior F-18 Super hornet! maneuverability is the only fear that Americans face.
Pakistan is the only J-10 customer so far. PAF is also planning to upgrade this plane with western technology and thrust vectoring engine, pakistan should then be apposing a threat to indian Su-30 mki.
Pakistan is the only J-10 customer so far. PAF is also planning to upgrade this plane with western technology and thrust vectoring engine, pakistan should then be apposing a threat to indian Su-30 mki.
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I believe you are right about it being able to out maneuver a F-18 Super Hornet. Read this before. I believe it too. However in a BVR combat situation the Hornet would win for sure. It DOES have better tech.according to American sources, in terms of maneuverability J-10 out performs technological superior F-18 Super hornet! maneuverability is the only fear that Americans face.
Pakistan is the only J-10 customer so far. PAF is also planning to upgrade this plane with western technology and thrust vectoring engine, pakistan should then be apposing a threat to indian Su-30 mki.
Thanks for all the responses
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Oh, I see. So from your logic which word should be used on US, then? Without the British there won't be any F-22s. Coz there won't be any jet engines. And without the British there won't be Nimizs. Coz CAT won't be invented. I guess without the Italian there won't be any USN subs, either. So if you use one word to describe PLA: Russian, then I shall give you at least two words for US: British and Italian! Wait a minute... who invented gun powder at the first place???
Sorry for being off the topic. I think from an interview with the chief designer of J-10. He said J-10 is a working progress. It will be improved over the years (just like any western and Russian fighters). So the very first J-10s shouldn't be that 'good'. But I'm sure it'll get improved gradually. Just give you reference point that the very first J-10s should be similar to F-16B/C (that's what the official said).
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Russia gives everything good they have to ANYONE who will pay them $. China is no exeception. I think the J-10 tech. + design came from either Israel (Lavi) or Pakistan. (F-16) If they didn't get help, in time they would have developed it anyway. Their defense budget has grown very quickly to become the 2nd largest in the world and they would have had the money for the R&D because of this.
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We are allies, we like to help for common defence. Russia sells for the MONEY they don't really want to help China. Don't forget the Sino-Soviet split.
Enough with the off topic stuff I'll stop now.
Well as far as I know Pakistan has ordered about 30-36 of these fighters so fas and can order more if needed. But what upsets me is that the j-10 will not have the data link capability like the F-16s and eventually the JF-17 because Sweden and China refuse to work together
And can comeone tell me how good the avionics of the aircraft are?
True. But I think your missing the point.
J-10 is a huge leap in capability for the PLAAF. Remember, its only 15 years ago that they stopped producing the F-6 - a very bad Mig-19 copy. Now they have a piece of kit that can challenge early-model F-16. At such pace, what next?
15 years ago, we were still developing Eurofighter. China has effectively skipped a generation of design with the J-10.
That website is considered unreliable, and it's Venik's. The article is a hodge podge of articles plus a whole lot of invented speculation. If you like the information where US military papers and articles from think tanks often footnote to, go to Hui Tong's Chinese Military Aviation or to Sinodefence.
J-6s are actually perfected MiG-19. In that respects they are better than the originals. They carry heavier armament, as much as 3 cannons; had more powerful engines with twice the life; were more robustly built; better armed, wired for Atoll, Sidewinder and Magic clones.
agreed
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The 'talk' is that the next upgraded/modified/modernized version of J-10 will fly next year & the next generation 'stealthy' will fly around 2015.