USN Pacific Assets - some info wanted

alexkvaskov

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Can someone provide me with an accurate number of major surface combatants - including cruisers, destroyers and frigates - as well as nuclear attack and ballistic missile subs available for immediate deployment by US forces in the Pacific?

Greatly appreciated,
Alex
 

RubiconNZ

The Wanderer
Can someone provide me with an accurate number of major surface combatants - including cruisers, destroyers and frigates - as well as nuclear attack and ballistic missile subs available for immediate deployment by US forces in the Pacific?

Greatly appreciated,
Alex
The US Navy has a fact file on their page which details basing and home porting of the their ships and submarines.
Fact File

In terms of the deployment information nobody who knew that would/could post it.

Did you really expect someone to comment on force readiness?

You are best checking the respective fleets home page information for upcoming deployments and work ups. The Submarines you will not find pre-deployment info on as it defeats the purpose...
 

StevoJH

The Bunker Group
Can someone provide me with an accurate number of major surface combatants - including cruisers, destroyers and frigates - as well as nuclear attack and ballistic missile subs available for immediate deployment by US forces in the Pacific?

Greatly appreciated,
Alex
Not going to happen. If anyone here had the information they would not violate opsec like that (if they wanted to stick around long).
 

alexkvaskov

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In terms of the deployment information nobody who knew that would/could post it.

Did you really expect someone to comment on force readiness?

You are best checking the respective fleets home page information for upcoming deployments and work ups. The Submarines you will not find pre-deployment info on as it defeats the purpose...
I realize that the people who actually know where/how many vessels are to be deployed will keep quiet. I was more interested in finding out approximate force levels, as opposed to precise dislocation.

The reason I asked because some sources are rather generous with info regarding the numbers and locations of naval ships of certain navies.
 

gf0012-aust

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Can someone provide me with an accurate number of major surface combatants - including cruisers, destroyers and frigates - as well as nuclear attack and ballistic missile subs available for immediate deployment by US forces in the Pacific?

Greatly appreciated,
Alex
Fleet specific activity was pulled after 911.

for obvious reasons
 

CheeZe

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Al-Qaeda has a navy? :D

For this kind of information, I just use wikipedia. Seems to be a good ballpark estimate of force organisation.
 

gf0012-aust

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For this kind of information, I just use wikipedia.
good luck with wiki as a reference source.

as said before, fleet specific activity got pulled after 911 for a reason.

terrorists are obviously clueless when it comes to knowing how to fight.

hello USS Cole - and the reason why the USN rewrote their SOPs on entering and maintaining in foreign ports.
 

Sea Toby

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While it won't be accurate to the number of ships, think in terms a third of the fleet is deployed, a third is working up for a deployment, and a third is down from a recent deployment. The so called three ship rotation process. The touchy part which is a total mystery is how many are in each fleet, the Pacific, the Indian, and the Atlantic as they are always changing. Its common for ships scheduled to be forwardly deployed in the Atlantic to end up in the Indian.
 

Vanguard

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Three ship rotation rule is generally a good rule of thumb. Its probably reasonable to assume that a few more vessels will be in home port, or on their way back now, than usual due to the holidays however there could be any number of unknown operations going against this and the numbers are now considerably less than they used to be after they got caught out with the Boxing Day Tsunami.
 

gf0012-aust

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Oh I know how much it fails as a scholarly source or even a reliable one. But it should give the guy some idea rather than none.
One of the reasons why I get twitchy about providing sources or info about specific platform movements is due to some security awareness training I recieved a few years back.

eg detailing ship movements allows people to plan an event, the more info they have on movements the more finessed the plan can become. USS Cole is a good early example.

In addition we know of situations where crew members had been compromised and leverage was applied to family members and subsequently applied to those crew members.

until you get those kinds of briefs, there is a tendency not to understand the potential impact and assume that throw away material is harmless.

its why I prefer to be oblique in detail.
 
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