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[Ananda]

Republikorp and Roketsan already said that in their JV will be 4 Missile, Sungur, Cakir, Atmaca and Hisar. Republikorp say in media it will be Sungur and Cakir that going to be manufacture under license first.

So not going to be surprise on Sungur Manpads Missile will come in large numbers. Question will be, it is pure import all or some underlicense production will begin. Cause until now this Republikorp-Roketsan JV facility is still big question mark.

As usual inline with diversification policy, VShorad will be QS-12, Mistral, Starsteak, and now Sungur. Could Sungur later on replacing Mistral ?

 

[Ananda]

TR_tech (@T_Nblty) on X

The Indonesian Military successfully tested Roketsan’s TRG-122 guided artillery missile system. During the trials, multiple TRG-122 missiles were fired at the exact same target, hitting it with pinpoint accuracy. Our Indonesian brothers and sisters are immensely proud—not only of acquiring this s…

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Roketsan Guided 122mm Rocket being test from KHAN MLRS. This being rumours going to provide tech based for guided RHAN 122.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

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Republikorp and Roketsan already said that in their JV will be 4 Missile, Sungur, Cakir, Atmaca and Hisar. Republikorp say in media it will be Sungur and Cakir that going to be manufacture under license first.

So not going to be surprise on Sungur Manpads Missile will come in large numbers. Question will be, it is pure import all or some underlicense production will begin. Cause until now this Republikorp-Roketsan JV facility is still big question mark.

As usual inline with diversification policy, VShorad will be QS-12, Mistral, Starsteak, and now Sungur. Could Sungur later on replacing Mistral ?

So that means the RBS-70 and Grom are already retired/taken out of service?
Btw, do you mean QW-3 instead of QS-12?

 

[Ananda]

Btw, do you mean QW-3 instead of QS-12?

Sorry typo, QW-12 not QS-12 QW-12 Anti-aircraft Missile which is latest version of QW Manpad missile.

As RBS-70 and Grom, seems no more info on their future sustainment. Thus I pressume QW-12, Sungur, Mistral and Starstreak that will stay as VSHORAD. I suspect RBS-70 and Grom will stay in inventory as rundown mode.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Sorry typo, QW-12 not QS-12 QW-12 Anti-aircraft Missile which is latest version of QW Manpad missile.

Ah, thanks. Unfortunately not much news or information from reliable sources is to be found about this acquisition on the internet.
This means TNI-AU has the QW-3 and the newer QW-19, and TNI-AD has recently got the QW-12.

As RBS-70 and Grom, seems no more info on their future sustainment. Thus I pressume QW-12, Sungur, Mistral and Starstreak that will stay as VSHORAD. I suspect RBS-70 and Grom will stay in inventory as rundown mode.

Kept in storage to show them at Monas....

 

[ComradeVortex]

Apparently Indonesia buying Chinese FL-10 missile (loitering munition for anti-ship), allegedly some delivery will be done in 2027.



I am... speechless and disappointed.

 

[AmandaHanchett]

Adding battalions that quickly raises a training question as much as a rifle supply one. Every new battalion needs junior leaders and instructors, and those take years to grow, so importing M4 type rifles is probably the easy part. The new drone operator units are interesting too, because the skill set is so different from traditional infantry: more technical aptitude, patience and hand eye coordination, less load carrying. Does anyone know whether they're recruiting for those roles separately or retraining existing soldiers?

 

[Ananda]

Does anyone know whether they're recruiting for those roles separately or retraining existing soldiers?

Seems Combination of new recruit and existing personnel from other units that has previously experience with drones.

Every new battalion needs junior leaders and instructors, and those take years to grow, so importing M4 type rifles is probably the easy part.

TNI-AD from what being gathered from media has surplus in officers. What those new battalions need to train fast is NCO. Moreover those new battalions has combo civilian project and military functions. Those so call Teritorial Development Battalions have each specialise functions on farming, plantation, fisheries, medical and constructions.

That's the big challange that Prabowo call more diverse recruitment pool https://en.tempo.co/read/2121118/prabowo-wants-people-with-glasses-allowed-to-join-tni-police. This also means that he wants pools that more diverse intelectual backgrounds. In other media he talks on kids with gamers mentalities can be recruited as long as they can fit minimum standard physical abilities.

So yes, getting tens of thousands M4 based riffles from Turkiye and UAE is part of stop gap until Pindad and other local producer can catch up on those new battalions need. Local producers capacity are build on the need of maintenance, modifications and replacement for current TNI and Police needs, with some surplus for export. I don't think they want to expand the capacities too much, thus why this stop gap imports happen from time to time.

 

[Ananda]

Pemerintah Gencar Bangun Yonif TP, Pindad Tingkatkan

PT Pindad (Persero) sedang meningkatkan kapasitas produksi amunisi hingga senapan guna menjawab kebutuhan pembangunan Batalion Infanteri

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As mentioned above, Pindad as part of local producer will increase their capacity. This few days old news shown also where much of increase capacity will be. It is more in munition and less in hardware. Munition production and facility will be priority.

This as increasing hardware capacity will need to be in line with how much sustainable demand will be on hardware. Sudden influx on demand alone is not the answer from producer to gauge on real sustainable demand.

 

[Ananda]

Edit:

Seems got trouble in putting link to the news sites. This put this google AI version instead:

Sharp Knife-2026 (Joint Counterterrorism Exercise)

• • Dates: Late October to early November 2026
  • Location: Guangdong Province, China
  • Focus: Mountainous counterterrorism and rescue operations, including mountain climbing, specialized driving, helicopter fast-roping, close-quarters assault, and manned-unmanned system coordination.
  • Context: This is the third edition of the "Sharp Knife" joint training series between the Chinese and Indonesian armies. [1]

This exercise in my opinion more on Indonesia and China try to cooperate on drones interface with ground operation in mountainous region. With TNI now cleaning up West Papua mountain region from seperatist, this shown much coincidence.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Edit:

Seems got trouble in putting link to the news sites. This put this google AI version instead:

Sharp Knife-2026 (Joint Counterterrorism Exercise)

• • Dates: Late October to early November 2026
  • Location: Guangdong Province, China
  • Focus: Mountainous counterterrorism and rescue operations, including mountain climbing, specialized driving, helicopter fast-roping, close-quarters assault, and manned-unmanned system coordination.
  • Context: This is the third edition of the "Sharp Knife" joint training series between the Chinese and Indonesian armies. [1]

This exercise in my opinion more on Indonesia and China try to cooperate on drones interface with ground operation in mountainous region. With TNI now cleaning up West Papua mountain region from seperatist, this shown much coincidence.

I don't think it is really a coincidence, TNI is fighting the OPM for decades, with and without UAVs. During the hostage rescue operation in 1996, TNI borrowed UAVs from Singapore at that time, right?

 

[Ananda]

The coincidence more on the fact that during present operation in Papua mountains, TNI more and more depend with manned unmanned interface operation. PLAN already more mature on that area. Thus this kind of exercise build in toward that kind of operation in mountainous area.