T-80 superior to T-90?

Jack Johnson

New Member
Hey just a quick question, as the T-80 was the succesor the to the russian "Elite" tank T-64, while the T-90 is the successort to their "mass production" line of T-55/62/72, shouldnt the T-80 be the more superior one?

How exactly do those two differ?
 

Tavarisch

New Member
Hey just a quick question, as the T-80 was the succesor the to the russian "Elite" tank T-64, while the T-90 is the successort to their "mass production" line of T-55/62/72, shouldnt the T-80 be the more superior one?

How exactly do those two differ?
Though you are correct in that the T-90 is essentially an upgraded T-72B, where you are wrong is to which tank is more superior.

To note, you are rather unspecific to which particular model of the T-80. I believe that to a certain extent, the latest models of the T-80U ( i.e T-80UM, T-80UD and T-80Us with Shtora) can more or less offer the same kind of performance, albeit being equipped with a hungry gas-turbine engine, except the T-80UD. Whereas, the T-90 is equipped with a diesel engine just like the T-80UD. The main guns are the same, and so are the munitions. ( though some have been reported to say that the T-90 is still stuck with the older T-72 autoloader, which is less reliable, slower and cannot load the more modern BM-42M long-rod penetrators. Experts, please clarify on this) It goes without saying that older T-80B models are inferior.

First thing is first;

The T-90 is basically an upgraded T-72B that incorporates features from the T-80U, namely being the 1G46 Main gun sight, Kontakt-5 ERA and some other features that I cannot recall for the time being. Simply put, the T-90 should be superior to some degree in comparison to both the T-72 and T-80 tanks altogether. However, I am not a certified armor expert, and my knowledge regarding Soviet tanks have become somewhat rusted. So, if I am wrong, please corret me.
 

eckherl

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
All T-90 welded Turret designs now feature T-80 series auto loader at present with a bustle mounted system next in line for future T-90 upgrades. What the Russians could pull out of T-80 series and implement on T-90 series was completed along time ago, it is a safe bet to say that current T-90M is by far superior over any type of T-80 series in production or that ever entered production. Also T-90 is cheaper to build versus a updated T-80 series, Russia also can no longer afford tooling capacity for two different tank models.
 

kay_man

New Member
The T-90 do have better ammunition than the T-80 series. These changes ( gun and ammunition) have been implemented on the Indian t-90s as well.
 
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