Strafed and shot at by military jet near Hill AFB Utah?!

co12

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A few winters ago in the Utah wilderness south east of Hill AFB, 3 of us were snowshoeing at about 01:00 on a moonless night with cloud cover at about 2000 feet. If you know the area, it was about 4 miles from the top of Emigration Canyon and is a National Forest area. My friend lives in the canyon and the distinct sound of jet fighters with a slow red strobe and white light on the middle of the fuselage could commonly be heard and/or seen flying in tandem formation.

Hill AFB is excellent training for Afghan terrain; to its west is uninhabited desert and various restricted areas and to the east is the Wasatch Range, which simulates mountainous areas. Jets can easily cross-over and train in both areas due to the low population of both. :gun

During our hike we could hear jets above us, but this was typical and thought nothing of it. As we continued, we stopped short of the ridge we were hiking to for water and to make sure our dogs were doing well. There are no trees in this area. While stopped for a few minutes, we couldn't hear the jets. Then all of a sudden, one of the jets flies over the ridge in a south-easterly direction at a maximum of 1000 feet heading directly for us, then within what seemed like only a few hundred feet from us he switched on the landing lights completely illuminating us and the hill behind. We ducked out of fear. As soon as the jet passed overhead he turned off the landing lights and made a sharp banking left turn to avoid the hill behind us. As my friends were still shaken somewhat, I looked to the large hill rising behind us when I saw a piece of ordinance with a telltale green tracer leave the aircraft, the ordinance arced from the aircraft and struck the hill behind us, extinguished by the heavy snow cover. At this point I thought he was going to make another pass and got in a prone position, very afraid. No cell reception to call 911 or Hill ATC. I honestly thought we were going to be blown up. We stayed low and got the hell out of there.

I come from an Air Force family and take this allegation very seriously, and I would never joke about this nor embellish the story. I'm quite positive we were used as target practice, but that the pilot intentionally missed. I would like to know any information about what kind of dummy round was launched at us. Anyone have a similar incident? I wasn't able to discern the pattern of lights on this aircraft. Thank You.
 

Kilo 2-3

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My guess would be that the "ordnance" fired at you was some kind of illumination or self-protection flare fired from the aircraft.

Were you able to recover the device after it landed?
 

PolSciIR

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Sounds most likely that the pilot was marking your position to other aircraft in the area with a flare. Maybe you wandered into a designated training range without knowing? Or its possible the pilot wound up outside of his training space. Either way, it sounds like the pilot was marking your positions to make sure nothing happened.
 

DNAz

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Its a flare

1. They are training at night so they might use tracer ammunition but of course It would be any color but green
2. Its not cannon fire for a number of reasons
3. Not real bombing practice as as far as I know flares arent used because they are inadequate to fill in the role for bombs
4. No bombs have tracers
So its
1. Marking you for safety
2. Marking your for safety and making some practice/fun out of it but that depends on what that pilot is thinking and no one will know

Also if you come from a Air Force Family (No offence just pointing things out)
1. You should know as much as me
2. Have someone in real life to ask
3. Be smart enough to do research

Although i understand if you want more opinions
 

co12

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Were you able to recover the device after it landed?
Unfortunately no. There were many feet of snow on the ground, and the face of the hill/mountain is easily 20+ acres. Had it been during the daytime and I could have seen roughly where it landed then I would have been inclined to probe for it. Having taken avalanche beacon and probing classes, it is extremely difficult to find a person under the snow, let alone something small. I've used an automated beacon course with pressure sensitive sensors about 5-10 feet down, and even seeing where everyone else had probed earlier, it still would take a couple minutes to hit the sensor. So no, I didn't attempt to recover it.


Sounds most likely that the pilot was marking your position to other aircraft in the area with a flare. Maybe you wandered into a designated training range without knowing? Or its possible the pilot wound up outside of his training space. Either way, it sounds like the pilot was marking your positions to make sure nothing happened.
Well, it wasn't like we were near any boundaries, an interstate freeway is nearby and a godawful tract housing development is less than a mile away. They do live training out at Dugway Proving Grounds not in a National Forrest area. I think the housing developer even owns the land we were snowshoeing on. Safety would make the most sense, but it seemed that the 2 jets left the area right after we were flared, plus he was at such a low altitude that the flare was only visible for a few seconds; by the time my friends turned around, the flare had already landed on the hillside.

Also if you come from a Air Force Family (No offence just pointing things out)
1. You should know as much as me
2. Have someone in real life to ask
3. Be smart enough to do research
1. I focus mainly on WMDs, intel operations, and data mining ops, and the aviation research I do is mostly on WW2 planes that my family flew. Anyways, I know much more about private civil aviation.
2. They're buried in Arlington, VA. I guess I could have called up my family friends Eugene Deatrick, Chuck Yeager, or one of the other Eagles, but when I do have the chance to talk to them, I just listen to their great stories.
3. Precisely the reason I made an account here.

Thanks!
 
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