Singapore Delays $1 Billion Combat Jet Contract

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Singapore Delays $1 Billion Combat Jet Contract
By JAN DAHINTEN, REUTERS, SINGAPORE





Singapore is delaying a $1 billion contract for 20 combat jets by as long as three months as Eurofighter, Boeing and Dassault tussle for the well-armed island’s biggest fighter order, sources close to the talks said.

Despite industry speculation that Singapore was leaning toward one of the two European suppliers rather than Boeing, aerospace analysts and sources said the outcome was too tough to call.

The Southeast Asian nation had been expected to decide on a replacement for its aging A-4SU Super Skyhawk jets in the first quarter of this year, but people at two of the three shortlisted groups told Reuters a decision was now expected between April and June.



"The Singaporeans have been asking a lot of questions regarding the planes. There’s a lot of activity," one source said.

A defense ministry spokeswoman said the deal was still being evaluated. She did not give a time frame for an announcement.

The Eurofighter consortium, U.S. company Boeing and French aircraft and defense group Dassault Aviation are vying for the contract.

Singapore, which spends more on defense than any Southeast Asian nation relative to the size of its economy, is known as a sophisticated arms buyer and its choice of jet could influence others countries considering new fighters.

One source at a supplier said Singapore was a tough client and that "it’s one of the hardest campaigns we have worked on".

The Eurofighter consortium includes BAE Systems, Airbus parent EADS and Italy’s Finmeccanica Britain lent support for the bid last year by sending two of its Eurofighter Typhoon jets to Singapore for evaluation.

French Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie urged Singapore’s leaders to pick Dassault’s Rafale fighter plane during a visit to Singapore this week, echoing comments made by President Jacques Chirac during an October visit.

The Rafale has yet to win its first export order after Dassault lost out on orders from Norway, the Netherlands and South Korea.

Singapore has also tested the F-15 fighter jets built by Boeing, which is under pressure to win a deal that would help it extend F-15 production beyond 2008.

All three of those multi-mission aircraft are much larger and more effective than the old Skyhawks, which are considered good, light bombers but are not fighters at all.

Singapore is armed to the teeth relative to its size of just 697 square km (436 square miles) and sees its modern weaponry, which includes submarines, stealth frigates and combat jets, as a necessary protection against all sorts of perceived threats.

At nearly a third of its $18.3 billion budget, or 5 percent of its $110 billion economy, Singapore’s defense spending is also higher in relative terms than that of military superpowers such as the United States, Britain and France when compared to total government spending.
The tightly-controlled, predominantly ethnic Chinese city-state of 4.2 million people, is on the doorstep of mostly Muslim neighbors Malaysia and Indonesia and believes it is a prime target for regional group Jemaah Islamiah (JI), a network linked to Osama bin Laden’s al Qaida.​
(An acquisition consist of either Rafale or Eurofighter provides the RSAF with a wide array of air firepower from stealthy cruise missile to advanced Beyond visual range air - air missile (bvraam), thats considerably a major milestone in the RSAF airpower inventory. )​
 

kashifshahzad

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:coffee I think Singapure has a big economy it can buy much planes for its defence but i dont know whose its enemy is can any one tell me who's its enemy is.Yeah its a nice thing to strengthen defence to include latest aircrafts and also the latest technology in all defence related things
 
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Singapore doesn't really have an "enemy" mate. It's just trying to maintain an effective air combat capability.
 

Ramjetmissile

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fortunately for singapore. Till now, she doesnt have any enemy which constantly bother her but it has always been her fashion of forecasting events militarily should sudden political climate in the region turn severely unstable, adding on the fact being an economic power house a strong defense forces have a dramatic influence in the confident of her investors. :)
 

Capt. Picard

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I think also they would be keeping a quiet eye on Malaysia and Indonesia, since they've had trouble with both in the past. This competition is a good opportunity for Rafale and Eurofighter...and possible their last good export prospects.
 

Pendekar

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Capt. Picard said:
I think also they would be keeping a quiet eye on Malaysia and Indonesia, since they've had trouble with both in the past. This competition is a good opportunity for Rafale and Eurofighter...and possible their last good export prospects.
Singapore from my point of view, try to maintain some level of air superiority from it's neighbours. it's closest neighbour, Malaysia, one of the major power in south east asia, have already massively upgraded it's forces and in 5 years from now Malaysia will have Aerial capability to match with current RSAF.
 

Ramjetmissile

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and in 10 years time your neighbour would have her 1st Joint strike fighter and fleet of either eurofighter, rafale or strike eagle number probably above 40 planes. Acquired more advanced Awac and tremenously boost its air surveillancescapabilities.;)
 

Pendekar

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there's no doubt that singapore at many points is superior to Malaysia. They seem to spare no expense in building up their armed forces and equip it with the latest gadgetry they can laid their hand on. but there's certain condition that put them in disadvantages. first, they have limited amount of ground so they lack the "recoil" ability. malaysia on the other hand posses a vast area in which it can absorb the attack, regroup and launching a counterattack. thus we see a difference of a defence doctrines in both countries. the singapore forces bend more on launching a pre emptive strike. some view this as a provocative move, but for me , base on their geographic limitations, this move is essential for their homeland defences.

the most obvious style of warfare is base on blitzkrieg tactics. singapore forces must advance as far as 100km as quickly as possible in order to lessened the effect of artillery bombardment on the island and to secure vital water lines that supply the singaporeans with fresh water. that means highly mechanized infantry and tanks, well planned logistical support and high number of aerial sorties. any disturbance to any factor mentioned will bogged down an advance and that means giving the enemy time to recover. at this point fast advance advantages held by the attackers will be lost.

but blitzkrieg style tactics also present some difficulties. the germans have prove the vulnerablity of this tactics against the russians. i don't remember which battle but at that battle the germans allowed the russians to advance unimpeded, luring them and stretching teir supply line before, they struck the russians rear and trap the spearhead of the russian advance.

note: it's just some idiot rattling alright? no offence to any singaporeans or malaysians or any party involved intentionally or unintentionally. sorry if my rattling seems to sway out of topics. peace!!!;)
 

Ramjetmissile

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You are right its swaying out of topics getting political:D

Pendekar without doubt i absolutely agree with argument.
"the singapore forces bend more on launching a pre emptive strike. some view this as a provocative move, but for me , base on their geographic limitations, this move is essential for their homeland defences".


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adsH

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There readiness to follow on a preemptive Attack strategy would be complemented by there choice of weapon systems they require and acquire.they need the best People the best training and the best Supporting Allies along with the best equipment so what ever they choose as there primary future Ariel Defnce AC, would win wide spread publicity as being the best. F-15 is not something that would stand a chance against the Typhoon or Rafael.
 

Pendekar

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i doubt F-15E will be selected. it's good but the platform is already considered obsolete. Rafale and Typhoon represent the latest in fighter technologies. But i think i understand the delays. before, all of singapore AD fighters was of US origin. so when they decide to change the supplier to europe, that means there's a lot of question to ask such as the reliability of the platform, support available and can it keep up with the current pace of of RSAF operations.
 

rafale_2k5

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Although no expert on Singaporeon affairs but i stilll believe it would all boil down to what r they actually seeking by the time JSF comes to fruition rafale n euro fighters wouldve matured tremendously whereas JSF would still be goin thru teethin problems no matter ho good the technology be , thats how the aircraft industry behaves , judging fom purely performance point of view it could be the euro with its fancy and ease of handlin flyin, but if stealth n other features r important than Rafale with its active radar cancellation technology is a good bet!!!!!!! on the other side singapore has nearly all of its aircraft of US originn hence the infrastructure requirements envisage JSF, plus the US has considerable clout, consider the case of Rafales 4 South Korea where despite dassaults claim of a clear winner the contract still went to F-15K becuse defence deals r complex , its not onlty performance but politics as well which finally decides whose the actual winner
 
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Singapore has already announced it's intention to acquire F-35 JSF's. They will be used toi replace the Singapore AF F-16's in due course. The current competition will replace legacy types such as A-4SU and F-5 Tiger 11's in RSAF service.

The future force structure of the RSAF will more than likely be the JSF and whatever fighter fighter is chosen in the current competition. I'm personally betting on Eurofighter Typhoon. Any of the new fighters will require a completely new logistics and training support system, so that argument isn't really relevant.

Of the 3 aircraft selected, the F-15E is the oldest technology, but shares the same weapons as their F-16's, and is possibly the cheapest. These weapons include AIM-9L Sidewinder and AIM-120 AMRAAM, but these weapons are to be used (initially) on the Eurofighter.

The Eurofighter is equally (if not more so) advanced than the Rafale, has demonstrated export success (Austria) and has a larger platform base (620 confirmed orders as opposed to 200 for Rafale). The Rafale is a good aircraft, but it suffers from the fact, that a completely separate weapons inventory will be required to arm this aircraft. None of the weapons currently employed by the RASF have been integrated on the Rafale and vice versa.

This is not an insignificant additional cost, particularly when these aircraft will probably be operated for the next 30 years...

In my view the fighters will be chosen and ranked as follows: Eurofighter, F-15E, Rafale. It will boil down to (as always) issues of: capability versus cost versus political favouritism...
 
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