Russia’s 5th gen fighter to be tested in 2009

luca28

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Source: http://www.defpro.com/news/details/5032/

18:23 GMT, January 21, 2009 defpro.com | Russia’s fifth-generation fighter have to start testing phase in 2009, deputy prime minister Sergei Ivanov was quoted as saying by RIA Novosti today. Further progress on the aircraft should terminate in a first commissioning to the Russian Air Force before 2015, the News Agency said.

"I insist that the testing start as early as 2009, and the fifth-generation fighter must enter service with the Russian Air Force in 2015," Sergei Ivanov said at a meeting of the Military-Industrial Commission.

Ivanov said the fighter programme must be accelerated as previous plans set 2010 for the first tests of the new fighter. The deputy prime minister was confident that the date can be hold, since developments on the first prototype of this aircraft are nearing end.

Russia's advanced multirole fighter is being developed by Sukhoi, which is part of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), along with India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), under a preliminary intergovernmental agreement signed in October 2007.

Russia and India will simultaneously develop two versions of the combat aircraft - a two-seat version to meet the requirements of India's air superiority doctrine, and a single-seat version for the Russian Air Force.

Russia's Sukhoi aircraft maker earlier said it had started to construct a prototype of the fifth-generation fighter, which will feature high maneuverability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets.

The Russian version will be built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft-manufacturing plant in Russia's Far East.

Ivanov said on Wednesday that the aircraft manufacturing industry should review and adjust some testing programs and methods due to advanced nature of the new aircraft.

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Feanor

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Luca please don't post news articles without your own commentary or input. Additionally there already is a thread about this. Please read the rules. Thanks.
 

riksavage

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One assumes you are referring to the T-50 PAK-FA? According to Janes (Jan 09) it will not be fitted with a full AESA radar, but an Irbis-E (PESA) radar and the engine will be a derivative of the SU-27's AL-31F engine and not a next generation design. Plus the avionics will be mostly 4th Gen. Clealry funding must be an issue for the prototype, so lets hope future derivatives will be upgraded, because in its current form it appears to be a 4th Gen +, and not a true 5th Gen fighter.

India HAL has teamed up with Russia's UAC to build a true 5thh Gen by 2014-15 time frame. Agreement signed on the 23rd December. This may influence the MRCA decision, Russia pushing the Mig-35, and at the same time building a future joint relationship on equal terms.
 

SkolZkiy

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Off-top are we moving to this thread from last one??

the avionics on PAK-FA was said to be new but to test it, it was put also on SU-35 (that also makes SU-35 more attractable for the export purposes).
also is said that on PAK-FA will be AESA radar
by the way I've read some article and now I doubt that it is so good and so much better then PESA and even older types of radar systems. But the article is written in case that RuScience is the best and US science sucks, and this is not good. So I'll try to find out something more
About engines - there will be used AL-41F but till they are not ready will be used for tests S-117 which are main engines for SU-35
 

Feanor

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Riksavage are you talking about the prototype currently being built? Or the final production model? The prototype currently being built is not a full 5th gen. It's a prototype. In fact in the case of the PAK-FA program it's the first prototype. So no surprises.
 

Wall83

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I read the article about this on Ria. First the official had said "must begin testing in 2009" then hours later it was changed to "Will begin testing in 2009".

Personaly I dont rely on statments from anyone else other then the russian president or Putin. The others talks so much bull and gives out so much "facts" about coming things that then never happens.

PAK-FA
"It will fly in 2007....2008...2009...no 2010.....then 2009.":D
Borei
"Will be launched in 2002...2003....2005....2006....2007....2008."
Kirov cruiser
It has been been refitted and is on duty....no nothing has happed and its ready for scrap......it soon will return to service.........the first work on the modification has begun......ready in 2012"
 

wimpymouse

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The article I read (don't remember wich) said that it will be ready to fly on Russias AF day in about mid August.
 

yasin_khan

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Russia's first fifth-generation warplane will make its maiden flight before the end of this year, the deputy prime minister in charge of arms procurement said on Wednesday.
"We expect the plane to take to the skies no later than the end of this year," Sergei Ivanov told a news conference after a meeting of the Military-Industrial Commission.
Earlier plans set 2010 for the first tests of the new fighter, which will feature high maneuverability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets.
Russia's advanced multirole fighter is being developed by Sukhoi, which is part of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), along with India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), under a preliminary intergovernmental agreement signed in October 2007.
Russia and India will simultaneously develop two versions of the combat aircraft - a two-seat version to meet the requirements of India's air superiority doctrine, and a single-seat version for the Russian Air Force.
The Russian version will be built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft-manufacturing plant in Russia's Far East.
Ivanov said the plant had almost completed the construction of a first prototype of the fifth-generation fighter, but it will undergo only durability tests on the ground at a research facility in Zhukovsky near Moscow.
However, a second prototype will be built and will take to the skies by the end of this year, he said.
Ivanov also said on Wednesday that the aircraft manufacturing industry should review and adjust some testing programs and methods due to advanced nature of the new aircraft.




http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090121/119740202.html



If you read the complete article it is been made jointly with India but i dont it would be a derivative of Su-27 i thnik it will be some thing new.
 

Feanor

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He doesn't. And neither does anyone else. It's (at this point) kept under covers.
 

SkolZkiy

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Feanor is right. If I get some new info I'll post it, but now there is nothing. And all that old info is circling from one thread to another =)))
 
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