Russian Typhoon Subs

[DRUB]

I was watching a discovery channel program that i downloaded of the net about nuclear Subs. It was mainly based on the American Nuclear subs (the name passes me at the moment). Anyway, i wanted to know if any of the Russian Typhoon subs are still in service? I am aware of the state of teh Russian military and am curious to know if these juggernauts are still active.

thanks

 

[Pathfinder-X]

Yes they are still in service but in a very poor state due to lack of funding. Operational readiness of those SSBN are in such a bad shape that they require extensive repairs if they are to be deployed for combat.

I think only 1 is combat ready at all times. Not so sure though.

 

[DRUB]

SSBN TYPHOON CLASS (TYPE 941) STRATEGIC MISSILE SUBMARINE, RUSSIA
The Typhoon ballistic missile nuclear-powered (SSBN) submarines are the largest submarines ever to be built. They were constructed at the Severodvinsk Shipyard, on the White Sea near Archangel. The first of the six members of the class to be commissioned was TK 208 in 1981, followed by TK 202 in 1983, TK 12 in 1984, TK 13 in 1985, TK 17 in 1987 and TK 20 in 1989. The submarines were stationed with the Russian Northern Fleet at Litsa Guba.

Of the six, only TK 17 and TK 20 are operational. TK 208 has been relaunched and is to be outfitted as a trials ship. TK 12 and TK 13 are decommissioned, waiting to be scrapped. With assistance from the United States, through the Co-operative Threat Reduction Program, TK 202 has had its nuclear fuel removed by US funded processing facilities and converted into forms suitable for long term storage or re-use. The UK has also agreed to take part in the dismantling of Russia's decommissioned nuclear submarines.

DESIGN

The Typhoon class submarine is of multi-hulled design – five inner hulls are situated inside a superstructure of the two parallel main hulls. The superstructure is coated with sound-absorbent tiles. There are 19 compartments including a strengthened module which houses the main control room and electronic equipment compartment which is above the main hulls behind the missile launch tubes.

The submarine's design includes features for travelling under ice and ice-breaking. It has an advanced stern fin with horizontal hydroplane fitted after the screws. The nose horizontal hydroplanes are in the bow section and are retractable into the hull. The retractable systems include two periscopes (one for the commander and one for general use), radio sextant, radar, radio communications, navigation and direction-finder masts. They are housed within the sail guard. The sail and sail guard have a reinforced rounded cover for ice-breaking.

Maximum diving depth is 400m. Speed is 12 knots when surfaced and 25 knots when submerged. Typhoon is capable of spending 120 days at sea.

MISSILES

The submarine carries 20 RSM-52 intercontinental, three-stage solid propellant ballistic missiles. The two rows of missile launch tubes are situated in front of the sail between the main hulls. Each missile consists of ten independently targetable multiple re-entry vehicles (MIRV's), each with a 100kt nuclear warhead. Guidance is inertial with stellar reference updating. Range is 8,300km with accuracy (CEP) of 500m. The missile weighs 84,000kg at launch and was designed by the Makayev Design Bureau. It has the NATO designation of SS-N-20 Sturgeon.

TORPEDOES

Typhoon has four 630mm torpedo tubes and two 533mm torpedo tubes with a total of 22 anti-submarine missiles and torpedoes of varying types. The torpedo room is in the upper part of the bow between the hulls. The torpedo tubes can also be used to deploy mines.

SYSTEMS

The sonar is an active/passive search and attack type with the sonar mounted on the hull under the torpedo room. The submarine is fitted with I/J band surface target detection radar.

Countermeaures include ESM (electronic support measures), radar warning system and direction-finding system.

The submarine has both radio and satellite communications systems. It is fitted with two floating antenna buoys to receive radio signals, target designation data and satellite navigation signals, at depth and under ice cover.

PROPULSION

The submarine main machinery consists of two nuclear water reactors and two turbogear assemblies comprising steam turbine and gearbox. One reactor and one turbogear assembly are fitted in each main hull. Each nuclear water reactor produces 190MW. These drive two 50,000hp steam turbines and four 3,200kW turbogenerators. Two 800kW diesel generators serve as standby propulsion units and are coupled to the shaft line. The two propellers are seven-blade, fixed-pitch shrouded. The built-in thrusters on the bow and stern are two telescopic turning screw rudders and are powered by a 750kW motor.

http://www.naval-technology.com/project_printable.asp?ProjectID=1559

guess that answers my questions.

cheers

 

[gf0012-aust]

At this point in time up to 90% of the penanted fleet is inoperable.

I'm also under the impression that only 1 of the Typhoons is blue water ready. The others are being cannibalised to keep the single unit in service.

The threat they projected has somewhat diminished since the advent of the Mk48 ADCAP, the new Mk 54 and variants of the UK Fish series of torpedoes. They still remain resilient to most navies torpedoes.

 

[Pathfinder-X]

Yes the one that is operation is the one Putin got on during the exercise last year. They failed to launch the SLBM successfully though, which tells you something about the state of the sub it's in.

Bottom line the Russian navy is a goner, a shell of its former Soviet self.

 

[ajay_ijn]

The PRIDE of Russian Navy.
Cold War's one of the most FEARFUL weapons.
The LARGEST Submarine in the world.
The Sub which the US hunter killers would always want to sink.
The Sub Having 200 nukes.
THE TYPHOON prowling under Arctic ice pack.

 

[gf0012-aust]

The Sub which the US hunter killers would always want to sink.

They didn't go very far without at least one and sometimes 2 US SSN's shadowing them. They would have been the first to be sunk in a war.

 

[quicksilver]

Does anyone know what HEN class of subs means

 

[gf0012-aust]

Does anyone know what HEN class of subs means

I suspect you are referring to the Chinese Han Class of Submarines??

Please note that you should not be making "one liners" in your posts.

Other mods have also warned you about this.

 

[quicksilver]

ok, i will make note of that in my future post. I am honored to be a member of this great forum i will not do anything that makes me banned from it.

 

[KGB]

HEN class I think refers to the Hotel, Echo, and November Class Soviet era boats which used the same reactor.

 

[lgrx7]

Does anyone know what HEN class of subs means

The HEN notation stands for the Hotel, Echo and November Soviet class subs which were launched in the late 50's and early 60's.

 

[Django]

Second Typhoon being defuelled

Russia will soon start dismantling its second Typhoon.

2006-05-19 16:20

Defuelling of the Russian nuclear submarine TK-12, project 941 (“Typhoon”) has begun at the Zvezdochka shipyard in Severodvinsk. The dismantling of the submarine is sponsored by the US CTR program, Zvezdochka’s press department reported. The defuelling should be completed in June, then the Typhoon will be scrapped, and its reactor compartment placed for longterm storage. In 2005 the Sevmash plant completed dismantling of the first Typhoon.
@GF0012-aust: Source: http://www.bellona.no/en/international/russia/navy/northern_fleet/decommissioning/43033.html (Bellona is a Norwegian enviromental organisation. They have a very actual overview about all topics regarding the activities of the northern fleet)

 

[Big-E]

None of the Typhoons are combat ready, only 1 is operational and she is used as a test bed. Except the 1 all have orders to be scrapped as soon as funds are available for their defueling.

 

[ComSec]

Indeed, the remaining Typhoon though operational is far from combat ready - and is likely never to be. So far they concentrated on testing the SS-NX-30 Bulava missile which will form the basis of their future submarine inventory of ballistic missiles

 

[Jtimes2]

Does anyone know what HEN class of subs means

Hotel/Echo/November.

First generation of Soviet SSBN, SSGN, and SSN respectively. All long since decommissioned.

 

[Goliat]

You are wrong about Typhoon operational status. There is of course the the modified Dimitry Donski as a test platform for the Bulava missile (NOT SS-NX-30, that is a compeltely different missile. SS-NX-30 is a cruise missile part of the new CLUB-system) Arkhangelsk was recently refulled and Severstal is still operational with 10 SS-N-20.. The Dimitri Donskoy will most likely return to full operational status as soon as the Bulava missile is operational. But doubt these boats are operational long afterwards 2015

 

[contedicavour]

You are wrong about Typhoon operational status. There is of course the the modified Dimitry Donski as a test platform for the Bulava missile (NOT SS-NX-30, that is a compeltely different missile. SS-NX-30 is a cruise missile part of the new CLUB-system) Arkhangelsk was recently refulled and Severstal is still operational with 10 SS-N-20.. The Dimitri Donskoy will most likely return to full operational status as soon as the Bulava missile is operational. But doubt these boats are operational long afterwards 2015

Could you share your sources with us ? Warfare.ru site for example indicates Seversal as potentially decommissioned.

thks in advance

cheers

 

[contedicavour]

1st Borey SSBN postponed again (source Jane's)

Russian shipyard has announced a delay of the date of operational capability of the 1st Borey, again...
the Navy has better preserve its existing SSBNs well since replacements will take a long time if the 10+ years needed for construction of the 1st borey are repeated for the sisterships...

cheers

 

[Jtimes2]

Indeed, the remaining Typhoon though operational is far from combat ready - and is likely never to be. So far they concentrated on testing the SS-NX-30 Bulava missile which will form the basis of their future submarine inventory of ballistic missiles

TK-208 Dmitriy Donskoy is operational with the new SS-NX-30 SLBM; from what I've heard it's in a reduced status meaning it could go to sea in a pinch (say, if a Delta IV had a breakdown and couldn't sail) to maintain a sufficient # of warheads at sea, but she is not part of the regular patrol rotation.

I've heard that one other Typhoon hull is being kept operational with SS-N-20's until the first Borei class SSBN comes on line; then again, I've also heard that the "Sturgeon" missile is retired which would mean all the other Typhoons no longer have a weapon to carry.