Russia to begin supplying Su-30MKM fighters to Malaysia in 2006

[kashifshahzad]

Russia to begin supplying Su-30MKM fighters to Malaysia in 2006
Fri, 30 Dec 2005, 10:31

IRKUTSK: Russian aircraft-makers will begin supplying Su-30MKM fighters to Malaysia in 2006, officials at the Irkut research and production corporation told Itar-Tass on Thursday.

Although the 900-million-dollar contract to manufacture 18 Su-30MKM aircraft was signed in the summer of 2003, the parties began its implementation in the beginning of this year.

A group of Malaysian Air Force experts has come to the city of Irkutsk to specify the procedures to purchase equipment and materials.

Earlier, Russia supplied several dozen such planes /Su-30MKI/ to India.

The aircraft is a multi-purposes fighter intended for winning air superiority and destroying ground and seaborne targets. It can fly missions at a considerable distance from the base, in all weather conditions, day and night, and amidst electronic warfare.

Aside from the manufacture of 18 Su-30MKM, the contract envisions their servicing in Malaysia, with subsequent modernization, if necessary.

To this end, Irkut, the head company, will open a service center in Malaysia

URL of this article:
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_004574.php

I have heard that the price of a single Flanker Su30 was about 25-30m$ but here if you divide the figure the Price is 50m$ which is too high:shudder

 

[scg_af]

I feel disgustingly stupid to ask some of this questions, but I just gotta have the answers to em anyway.


I always wondered, what was the difference between a Su-30MK and a Su-30MKM?


A single Su-30 Flanker at $25M+? Wow, thats a lot of mula. MiG-29s up to my knowledge cost less than $20M per unit yet they have an impressive array of armaments, reliability, and a top speed of 1,518 mph (compared to a Su-30's top speed of 1,320 mph). But the Su-30 uses higher technology, better gizmos and such. I suppose it should be worth the money Malaysia is paying for the Sukhois.


Also, is the Su-30MKM apart of Russia's PAK-FA program?

 

[f2000]

actually,su-30mkm cost a lot because of it has components from different countries s.africa,france,germany n of course rusia.the integration work
between these system cost alot.su-30mkm definitely has better performance
than su-30mk .
from this buy malaysia also send astronaut to space station with russian help.
thats why the price is high.
we will have capability that we never have before.
u know it worth it

 

[aaaditya]

Russia to begin supplying Su-30MKM fighters to Malaysia in 2006
Itar-Tass
Fri, 30 Dec 2005, 10:31

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IRKUTSK: Russian aircraft-makers will begin supplying Su-30MKM fighters to Malaysia in 2006, officials at the Irkut research and production corporation told Itar-Tass on Thursday.
Although the 900-million-dollar contract to manufacture 18 Su-30MKM aircraft was signed in the summer of 2003, the parties began its implementation in the beginning of this year.
A group of Malaysian Air Force experts has come to the city of Irkutsk to specify the procedures to purchase equipment and materials.
Earlier, Russia supplied several dozen such planes /Su-30MKI/ to India.
The aircraft is a multi-purposes fighter intended for winning air superiority and destroying ground and seaborne targets. It can fly missions at a considerable distance from the base, in all weather conditions, day and night, and amidst electronic warfare.
Aside from the manufacture of 18 Su-30MKM, the contract envisions their servicing in Malaysia, with subsequent modernization, if necessary.
To this end, Irkut, the head company, will open a service center in Malaysia

URL of this article:
http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/article_004574.php

I have heard that the price of a single Flanker Su30 was about 25-30m$ but here if you divide the figure the Price is 50m$ which is too high:shudder

this also includes the cost of maintainence ,training(which would go to india which will provide maintainence and training to malaysian airforce as per an agreement between india and russia for joint marketting of the su30 series of aircrafts),weapons and spares.

 

[aaaditya]

also malaysians are looking at acquiring french helmets for the su30mkm

here is the link:

http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/MM/Sunday/Frontpage/20060101115049/Article/index_html

there are a few irregularities in this article though,i believe that the indians use the ukranian helmets or the israeli dash helmets but definitely not russian.

the su30mkm differs from su30mki in that it has russian,french and indian subsystems(vor,dme) but no israeli equipment which have been replaced by the french ones.

india's share of this contract is to supply malaysia with spares(irkut subcontract spares from india's hal according to a joint marketting agreement between india and russia regarding the su30 series of aircrafts),maintainence support ,and training.

by the way 25million maybe the cost of su27flanker,but iam quite sure that the su30 series will cost atleast 37.5million dollars per aircraft.

the difference between su27 flanker and the su30 series is as much as the difference betwwwn f16 and the f16b60 would be.

 

[tphuang]

also malaysians are looking at acquiring french helmets for the su30mkm

here is the link:

http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/MM/Sunday/Frontpage/20060101115049/Article/index_html

there are a few irregularities in this article though,i believe that the indians use the ukranian helmets or the israeli dash helmets but definitely not russian.

the su30mkm differs from su30mki in that it has russian,french and indian subsystems(vor,dme) but no israeli equipment which have been replaced by the french ones.

india's share of this contract is to supply malaysia with spares(irkut subcontract spares from india's hal according to a joint marketting agreement between india and russia regarding the su30 series of aircrafts),maintainence support ,and training.

by the way 25million maybe the cost of su27flanker,but iam quite sure that the su30 series will cost atleast 37.5million dollars per aircraft.

the difference between su27 flanker and the su30 series is as much as the difference betwwwn f16 and the f16b60 would be.

The price goes down with time. I remember China purchasing sk for 32 million each. Nobody would be stupid enough to pay that much now. Anyhow, the prices listed definitely include auxilary stuff. The actual cost of the plane itself is probably $35 to $40 million. Which is stupid cheap compared to F-15 and F-16 block 50+.

As for the difference between su-27 and su-30, it's not as big as you might think. For example, su-27skm is basically a single seat version of su-30mk2. Also, su-27skm upgraded with Pero antenna is probably not far from mki in performance. The real big upgrade comes in su-35bm which uses much better RAM coating, hardened structure, zhuk-msf, AL-41F1 and can fire KS-172.

 

[ajaybhutani]

The price goes down with time. I remember China purchasing sk for 32 million each. Nobody would be stupid enough to pay that much now. Anyhow, the prices listed definitely include auxilary stuff. The actual cost of the plane itself is probably $35 to $40 million. Which is stupid cheap compared to F-15 and F-16 block 50+.

As for the difference between su-27 and su-30, it's not as big as you might think. For example, su-27skm is basically a single seat version of su-30mk2. Also, su-27skm upgraded with Pero antenna is probably not far from mki in performance. The real big upgrade comes in su-35bm which uses much better RAM coating, hardened structure, zhuk-msf, AL-41F1 and can fire KS-172.

sorry for queing up the questions for u..
i dont think ks172 development is still over. and same goes for AL41.
what is zhuk msf ??
and do u have some info about pero antenna that we can see.. sorry i dont have any idea about this thing..

 

[tphuang]

sorry for queing up the questions for u..
i dont think ks172 development is still over. and same goes for AL41.
what is zhuk msf ??
and do u have some info about pero antenna that we can see.. sorry i dont have any idea about this thing..

You are right, that's why su-35bm isn't ready until probably 2008. AL-41F1A is available I think, it's just the first step in the eventual development of AL-41F.

Zhuk-msfe - sokol phased array radar. Supposed to be the most powerful Russian radar in development. something like 240 KM detection range vs 5 m^2 targets, tracks 24+ targets and can enage 8 concurrently I think.

Pero - I never got the actual figure on this. Some of the detection range I saw are around the Bars number. Anyhow, this link has some good info on Russian radars, I'm not sure if the numbers given are accurate or not.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...o+phased+array+antenna&hl=en&client=firefox-a
(google cached version of edefenseonline, hehehe)