plz send some tips in!

[ahsan366]

Hi guyz,
this is ahsan from pakistan. I was wondering if anyone of u people can give me some tips which will be useful to get in the pakistan army. As you people know that Pakistan army is one of the best trained armies in the world so they take ppl after careful selection. If u guyz can help me out plz do!

 

[Pathfinder-X]

well i don't know the requirement for pak army but i can give you a few pointers since im serving in army reserve in canada.

Jogging: this is the most important preparation, you should be able to run 5km or 3 miles before attempting to join any army around the world. Start at shorter distance first then work your way up in a period of several months.

Push-ups: Be able to do at least 30 non-stop, breath in as you go down, and exhale as you come up. Your chese should be 2 inches from the ground before you push back up. 30 push-ups per set, do 4 sets a day. Each week increase 2 more to your sets.

Sit-ups: lay down on your back, your lower and thigh should form a 90 degree angle. place your hands behind your head and sit up until your forehead touch your knees, and when going down make sure both your shoulders touch the ground. Don't try to do too many repetitions at a time, slowly increase the limit as u go along.

oh and try keeping your room tidy all the time, im sure they have morning inspection in pak as well. At the beginning i got yelled at by my CO everyday just for some very minor things in my living quaters. Keeping your room clean and organized is a good way to prepare for it.

 

[yasin_khan]

hahahahahahaha nice one path finder-x : : :

 

[ahsan366]

thnks pathfinder

the tips will be really helpful, there are many tests over here for the army except for the physical standards otherz include psychological tests and handwriting analysis etc and finally an interview.
thanks by the way!
do tell me if u need any help from my side!

 

[P.A.F]

Why don't you join the army acadamy. if you good enough then they let you in

 

[Aussie Digger]

As pathfinder says, make sure you are nice and fit before you get there. If you're considering the armed forces I assume you have no significant health problems? If so, based on my experience with the Australian Army, the ability to run 5ks in 20 minutes or so shouldn't be too difficult and will make the initial stages of your basic training a bit easier. Having to get up to speed with your fitness on top of everything else does not make for an easy tim in basic training...

A bit of upper body work with push-ups, chin-ups and sit-ups and perhaps a bit of swimming is a good idea too. Weight training is pointless. I know the US Marines are big on it, but guys with massive muscles tend not to be able to run very well. Running is very important no matter which military you're in!!! AS long as you're strong enough to carry you're pack easily and lift yourself over obstacles that's all you need. Endurance is more important.

Other than that, get used to the idea that your life is no longer your own and that at the start at least, you will be told what to do, when to do it and when to stop. Understand that it's really justa "game"!!! Play by the rules, don't act all "high and mighty" if you think something's beneath you, try and realise that you are there to learn and that you are there to pass a course and you should be fine.

 

[Pathfinder-X]

yep listen to aussie, he spent more time in the army than i have.

Some degree of weight lifting is desirable, since strength plays a important part in hand-to-hand combat, and you'll need lot of strength in the obsticle course. But as aussie said, getting too buff will slow you down.

Disipline is a must!! Always remember this! If there is one word to discribe the military it's ORDER. If you really think your commander is an A##hole, request a unit transfer. Personally I obey all orders from my CO eventhough i think im above and beyond any regulations and laws. :

 

[Gremlin29]

I've got to agree with everything Aussie Digger has said. Something universal about military training is that you will learn that you have limitations which far exceed anything you have ever dreamed of and believe this, you will learn where they are. Keeping that in mind, stamina is without question the most crucial skill you could improve upon which will make your basic training "easier". I stress "easier" because it will be hard no matter what manner of shape your in. I advise everyone entering the service to take up running well before they go in, if you hate running so much you can't seem to do it on your own you are not going to like military life very much. Aside from that my 2 biggest pieces of advice are thus:

1. Listen and learn what they are teaching you. Irrelevant of your country, your armed forces have probably trained millions of individuals before you. The methods they use work better than any method you may personally have used or feel more comfortable with. Weapons training being a fine example, most people can't shoot to save their life, but if you fire your weapon exactly as they tell you, you'll be quite the marksman.

2. Don't make the mistake of thinking about how long you have to go before you graduate. Conquer your training and all of the challenges it encompasses on a day by day basis. Forget about 12 weeks from now, concentrate on today.

Other than that, as long as YOU want to be there, nothing will stop you. Just remember that the day you earn the privelage of joining the ranks of your army, you will have accomplished an achievement very few do, and that is something that can never be taken away. Good Luck!

 

[adsH]

yeah thnx alot AD Pathfinder and grem, i actually started running, but i use a treadmill at the gym i do about 4 miles easily in 30 min, i am going for something way different which is RAF, i think RAF has similar requirements. i should keep my level of fitness up i still have two years before i actually apply to either RAF or RNAVY. i'm not much of a Army person.

 

[Aussie Digger]

That's the spirit Adsh, you're not planning on joining the RAF Regiment then I guess eh? I'm not sure about the RAF, but the basic fitness assessment for the RAAF, RAN and RAA (Royal Australian Army) is exactly the same, a 2.4klm road run in less than 12 minutes (this is the lowest fitness level acceptable, the younger you are the shorter time you have to complete the run), 40 push-ups, 70 situps and a "run-dodge-jump obstacle course".

 

[adsH]

That's the spirit Adsh, you're not planning on joining the RAF Regiment then I guess eh? I'm not sure about the RAF, but the basic fitness assessment for the RAAF, RAN and RAA (Royal Australian Army) is exactly the same, a 2.4klm road run in less than 12 minutes (this is the lowest fitness level acceptable, the younger you are the shorter time you have to complete the run), 40 push-ups, 70 situps and a "run-dodge-jump obstacle course".

I am planning to join the RAF but after i complete my UNiversity degree. I really want to be an Engineer since i cannot be an Air-crewman (i have Glasses). apparently RAF needs engineers, and they have brilliant training and allowances, and normally once you join up your in the service for about 9 years but as an engineer your only bound to the AF for four years. so then i think it's 6 months intitial training at cranwell and then a posting, provided i pass there entry exam.

 

[Aussie Digger]

It would be an interesting job I should imagine. You'd get to see a bit of the world, at the UK taxpayers expense, Meet some interesting people etc. In Australia former military service is almost always looked upon beneficially, due to the unique training and experiences you can gain from it. The RAF would be one of the more "cushy" jobs, available to military personel too. We always used to "bag" the RAAFIES for the "ease of their lifestyle" and the "luxury" they had available to them, (warm beds, hot food, hot coffee...)

Best of luck anyhow. I'd advise a bit of military service to just about any young bloke. There's plenty of time in life to do "what you want" and as I said above, there's things that are completely unique to military service that are simply impossible to do anywhere else. I wouldn't have changed anything much about my service, though maybe Corps... :lol2 About all I'm qualified to do is fire machine guns and blow sh*t up!!!

 

[ashoaib]

My tip is, do get some approach too other wise its become very difficult to be selected coz I know I was rejected from PAF. They ask me about reference of any millitry personal which i dont have. So do get good approach

 

[Libyan]

As you people know that Pakistan army is one of the best trained armies in the world

SAYS WHO???


Yes pakistan is a little better trained than saudi

that really isnt saying much though.

Im sure I and a few others in here could give pakistan hell in a war.

me vs saudi ends with me proclaiming the peoples republic of central arabia.

 

[ashoaib]

Libyan, why you want to give hell to Pakistan. We do nothing wrong with you we are brothers. Give hell to Isreal compare your self with it, where you and we are standing. We are not trained like Isrealise, the only thing we have they dont have is motivation of Jihad. Otherwise they are better than us.

 

[Libyan]

Very true

However I hate the saudi forces just as much as I hate the secularist mercenary forces of pakistan.



it goes without saying libyas forces are weak, and inept not only does the common libyan care little about socialism , but likely cares little for islam as well.



However I do not hear of libyan people blindly stating that libyas army is one of the best trained

I do not hear of Libyan people calling their t-72s the most up to date

Pakistani brothers seem to be obsessed with their military ascribing to it incredible attributes.


the Pakistani military failed in kargil,failed in somalia,failed in bengladesh,and very nearly failed in fighting in the nw province, it is only the threat of reprisals against the women and children of the nw province that stopped the Pashtun from routing the azad rifles and the pak army.

 

[ashoaib]

Libyan my man I have no false image in my mind about my army like most of the Pakistanis are brain washed that our army is very good, honest and fair. I know that our army is one of the most corrupt army in the world and our generals are good for nothing. They are eating all our resources. Our generals are cowards, they made our army to surrender in 1971 without a fight. More than 90 thousand soldeirs become POWs it is the largest number ever become POW. Actually Pakistan is a controlled state by the establisment and army. They always make the reality which suites them and Pakistani people blindly believe what they say. But I live in no fanticy. Our establishment and army treat us like their colony. Our generals are not islamic they are mostly secular in mind and about Saudis and other arabs, they are nutts. I hate them, they have money but dont go for good education and dont try to obtain or develop good technology. They only like to live in Luxuries and waste money on stupid things. They only know to marry women. I even dont believe that AL khalid Tank is one of the best because its not. Hope know you'll like my coments.

 

[srirangan]

ashoaib,
You live in reality. It's good to see. But other's on this forum think otherwise. In a thread called "Best Armies of the World" many Pakistani's posted that they're army is the best, posters of all other countries including India, China etc conceded that the American's are the best.

I agree with Libyan that it appears that many Pakistani's think too much of their military. This is the impression I get when I read posts by Pakistani's on this and many other forums, perhaps they are influenced by military propaganda? :?

 

[ashoaib]

Many people are influenced by false propaganda. Our army is good but not the best. Actually its not the soldiers, generals, which make wrong decisions other wise our army have courage but corruption is eating the courage. Like in 1971 soldiers didnt want to give up without a fight but our generals was in a hurry to surrender. The reason is that they are corrupt and want control of every thing which make them coward. I think IndoPak armies are equal in training and no one is better than other but Indians are better in weapons.
I think we should go back to the TOPIC. No more coments who is better who is not.

 

[neel24neo]

Hi guyz,
this is ahsan from pakistan. I was wondering if anyone of u people can give me some tips which will be useful to get in the pakistan army. As you people know that Pakistan army is one of the best trained armies in the world so they take ppl after careful selection. If u guyz can help me out plz do!

are you looking to get into the PA as an officer?or is it just the soldier?
if it is as a soldier whatever others told u to do is very relevant.if you wish to be an officer,i believe,you will have to go through similar kinds of tests as we do in india,all of them evaluating you as a team leader,your ability to work with a group,your ability to manage the resources you have at hand,your basic psychological profile(whether it suits the army or not)and basic level of intelligence.the physical standards are not tested for during the interview(they do conduct a thorough medical check up after the interview).army logic goes that they will bring you up to the physical standards once in the academy(and believe me they are far worse than the usual army basic training).you cannot be taught or coached to pass through the interview,if you are a leader and can present before them what qualities you have,nothing will stop you.but the competition is tough.in india intake percentage is just under 4%of total candidates appearing for interview.