New croatian assault rifle

Ragusian

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Today an agreement was signed between HS company(the maker of the acclaimed HS-2000) and our goverment for initial production of 50 examples of this new assault rifle. The rifle itself will be tested by our soldiers in Afganistan, before it enters serial production. It's a completely new design, 5.56 calibre, weighning in at only 2.8 kilos, and the barrel is 500 mm long.
We'll be also producing our own ammuniton soon.

If everything goes well, the entire CroArmy will get it, and the shortened version is being evaluated for the police too.
 

tankee1981

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Today an agreement was signed between HS company(the maker of the acclaimed HS-2000) and our goverment for initial production of 50 examples of this new assault rifle. The rifle itself will be tested by our soldiers in Afganistan, before it enters serial production. It's a completely new design, 5.56 calibre, weighning in at only 2.8 kilos, and the barrel is 500 mm long.
We'll be also producing our own ammuniton soon.

If everything goes well, the entire CroArmy will get it, and the shortened version is being evaluated for the police too.

Any chance this design is related to the French FAMAS? Because there is stunning resemblance. :)
 

Ragusian

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No...they may look similar, but this is a completely new design(as it was with the HS-2000, which is known as Springfield XD in USA, if I'm not mistaken), one of the longest barrels around, weighs less then any other compareable riffle.
Venezuela(That would make Tito really proud:eek:nfloorl: ) and Kuwait are also interested in buying it.
 

Rythm

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Didnt Venezuela recently buy a large amount of AK-103s from russia?

Seems to be an interesting rifle, but do you know what the thing in the triggergurad is? that thing that looks like some kind of selector/switch in front of the trigger?
 

marcellogo

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Went to Karlovac, for army force day , handled it...

The Vhs rifles was showed to the public day in Karlovac.
Well, it was really on a table and you can take it and handle.
I do it, LOT OF TIMES, cause it's one of the most cool, smooth, impressive weapon I have handled.
Quite incredible how easily it feels/operate/get inhand, the hk36 near them seemed to me bulky and complicated.
Boys, you have to face it...YOU JUST HIT THE JACKPOT!!!:D:D:D:D
And it is also sexy.
 

defencebd

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Today an agreement was signed between HS company(the maker of the acclaimed HS-2000) and our goverment for initial production of 50 examples of this new assault rifle. The rifle itself will be tested by our soldiers in Afganistan, before it enters serial production. It's a completely new design, 5.56 calibre, weighning in at only 2.8 kilos, and the barrel is 500 mm long.
We'll be also producing our own ammuniton soon.

If everything goes well, the entire CroArmy will get it, and the shortened version is being evaluated for the police too.
Would you pls info us more about this rifle ,Its looking good .
 

Chino

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...what the thing in the triggergurad is? that thing that looks like some kind of selector/switch in front of the trigger?
I think it is a safety switch. Similar to the one found on the M203.

Here you can see the switch in the safe position, and it also stops your finger getting onto the trigger.
 

marcellogo

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Yes, is a fire selector

Correct, it's the fire selector, in the safe position it stays inside triggerguard, and if someone inadvertitely put fingers inside it will block trigger, turning it to the right makes the rifle fire semiauto, to left volley, you can also turn from left to right and vice versa, but in this case the triggerguard will block it and you are required to pull it back a little to bypass it .
All these action can be performed using only your trigger hand's fingers, no need to leave firing position.

You asked for more information? Here they are:
The most important: LONG STROKE PISTON not DGI.
The second most important: lefties can use it without problems, only need to put on a (standard equipment) bullet deflector, all others commands are perfectly ambidextrous.
The look of Vhs: it came as a response to the main requests from croatian operative personnel involved in delopment process (and they weighted surely a lot, given Marko Vukovic background): clean lines please, nothing that protrudes from the main body and the same applies, as far as possible, also to the clip on accessories.
Famas style works great about it: fire selector and bolt lever are verticals, covered by triggerguard and upper handguard, and the peculiar form of the latter has been used very, very smartly by Hs designers to host rails:
you have spaces to mount up to six (althought it will not usually occur) plus standard iron sights plus two different aims devices for rifle granades on it, leaving the rifle main body clean.
 

HKSDU

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And I thought people blaimed China for copying, but this rifle is blantly a cheap copy of the FAMAS.
 

marcellogo

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Obviously not:

The look is intentionally similar, as they found that the Famas ergonomics worked very well according to the given specifics.
Everything inside is totally different: the mechanism is based on long stroke piston as said, famas work on lever delayed blowback, like in AA52 gpmg, the rifle is polymer made and in an extention i've not seen in others rifle, maybe the only is beretta X-160, how to say the most advanced in the world, Famas is almost all iron.
And obviously the space for rails on the hanguard is something absolutely new, as when famas was coinceived (have to remember that is one of the oldest 5,56 rifles?) these still don't existed.
In a certain sense Vhs, has taken ideas also from others rifles, notably from Hks: muzzle breaker and magazines came from there but a closer look will show differences , and HK has taken it from Sigs in exchange.
The same can apply to the bolt, Vhs uses the seven lugs Stoner type, as HALF of western assault rifle , but it doesn't means that they are ll derived from M-16.
So , hkdsu , if you are an adept of the croatian national hobby of "spitting on our own", please change target, there are a lot of politicians on which you can freely exercise yourself.
 
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