Modernization of a land forces of Russia begins

[IMPEREC]

" In Russia works on perfection of means individual equipments of military men are conducted. The commander-in-chief of a land forces of the Russian Federation Alexey Maslov has told, than scientists are engaged. According to the commander-in-chief, development of the complete set of soldier's equipment of the second generation which includes the fighting protective complete set, a perspective individual complex of arms and base elements of an information-aim instrument complex is conducted.
" Development of the perspective complete set of equipment of military men of the third generation on the basis of the newest design decisions, technologies and materials " in the near future will begin, - the commander has noted also.
Maslov has informed, that till 2011 is planned completely re-equiped more than 20 connections of the Land forces. Thus the big attention will be given to modernization of existing samples of arms both military technics and creation of a scientific reserve for transition to modern means of the armed struggle.
Meanwhile events on southern borders of the former USSR, on Near and Middle East, in the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and other countries show, that the opportunity of regional conflicts now is kept. In possible war, Maslov as never earlier, joint actions of various kinds of armed forces and arms of the service to which should solve huge quantity of the most complicated interconnected problems will be pressed believes.
It also has declared, what even sea powers give a priority to a land forces, and has noted, that reliable defense of territory of Russia is possible in the event that in structure of its Armed forces there will be powerful Land forces. The commander-in-chief has informed, that in past to year a land forces of Russia have lead about 500 various maneuvers.
Besides a land forces have taken part in a number of the joint international doctrines had an antiterrorist or peace-making orientation. At the same time the commander-in-chief has informed, that the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation plans to liquidate a part of military higher educational institutions the nearest years, and remained to integrate. Thus high schools will equip all the newest samples of arms and training complexes. The new technics has already started to act in the order of military institutes ".

I hope my english not very bad.

 

[KGB]

Does this mean that the future thrust of russia is in infantry equiptment and weapons? Makes sense, since counter insurgency seems to be the next challenge.

 

[IMPEREC]

Does this mean that the future thrust of russia is in infantry equiptment and weapons?

No, just within 15 years usual land forces almost did not receive new equipment

 

[Francis]

With the start of the modernization of the Land forces, do you think this will increase Russia's sphere of influence in Eastern Europe and in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation? Although Russia is rapidly recovering its military might through its increasing military budget it still seems that it has issues regarding the protection of military personel in Chechnya, will Russia it put its efforts in changing the problem?

 

[IMPEREC]

With the start of the modernization of the Land forces, do you think this will increase Russia's sphere of influence in Eastern Europe

I dont think so, now for increase influence at these countries Russia uses economic methods for example increase in investments.

and in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation?

The Russian army, considering the nuclear weapon, is strongest there.

Although Russia is rapidly recovering its military might through its increasing military budget

It stil less than should be

it still seems that it has issues regarding the protection of military personel in Chechnya, will Russia it put its efforts in changing the problem?

Certainly, many money is given on restoration of the Checnia.Also mountain forces are created.Also it will be constructed 200 frontier posts equipped by last word of technics.It is more problems with political conditions and mentality of chechens: clan wars, blood feud, etc...

 

[eckherl]

" In Russia works on perfection of means individual equipments of military men are conducted. The commander-in-chief of a land forces of the Russian Federation Alexey Maslov has told, than scientists are engaged. According to the commander-in-chief, development of the complete set of soldier's equipment of the second generation which includes the fighting protective complete set, a perspective individual complex of arms and base elements of an information-aim instrument complex is conducted.
" Development of the perspective complete set of equipment of military men of the third generation on the basis of the newest design decisions, technologies and materials " in the near future will begin, - the commander has noted also.
Maslov has informed, that till 2011 is planned completely re-equiped more than 20 connections of the Land forces. Thus the big attention will be given to modernization of existing samples of arms both military technics and creation of a scientific reserve for transition to modern means of the armed struggle.
Meanwhile events on southern borders of the former USSR, on Near and Middle East, in the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and other countries show, that the opportunity of regional conflicts now is kept. In possible war, Maslov as never earlier, joint actions of various kinds of armed forces and arms of the service to which should solve huge quantity of the most complicated interconnected problems will be pressed believes.
It also has declared, what even sea powers give a priority to a land forces, and has noted, that reliable defense of territory of Russia is possible in the event that in structure of its Armed forces there will be powerful Land forces. The commander-in-chief has informed, that in past to year a land forces of Russia have lead about 500 various maneuvers.
Besides a land forces have taken part in a number of the joint international doctrines had an antiterrorist or peace-making orientation. At the same time the commander-in-chief has informed, that the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation plans to liquidate a part of military higher educational institutions the nearest years, and remained to integrate. Thus high schools will equip all the newest samples of arms and training complexes. The new technics has already started to act in the order of military institutes ".

I hope my english not very bad.

As far as armored vehicles, what are they modernizing. Are they mass producing the BMP 3 and if so will an upgraded BMP 2 augmentate it. Have they decided stay with the T - 90 or will they roll out a new generation.

 

[IMPEREC]

Have they decided stay with the T - 90 or will they roll out a new generation.

In general here it was a question of personal equipment of the soldier.
T-90 will continue to buy. But there was a message that now passes last stage of tests the new tank which will become the new main battle tank.

 

[Chrom]

As far as armored vehicles, what are they modernizing. Are they mass producing the BMP 3 and if so will an upgraded BMP 2 augmentate it. Have they decided stay with the T - 90 or will they roll out a new generation.

T-90 will be buyed in small numbers to support manufacturing lines and promote abroad sales. Until all-new MBT is designed we will not see big NEW! tank orders from RuA. But fairly complete modernezation of existing tank forces is planned which will bring T-72/T-80 tanks to T-90 level. BMP-3 is somewhat expencive, so only "premium" units will recive it. Slightly modernized BMP-2 will remain in RuA for long time. Same goes for BTR-80 and BTR-90. A lot of money will go as always to nuclear forces and associated things - like submatines, frigates, bombers, ICBM's, EW radars, space assets. Fairly sizeable chunk of money will go to SAM's of all kinds - S-400, Tor and Pantzir are quite expencive things. Land forces will recive a lot of "small" equipment such as night vision googles, new uniforms, etc - but generally no big "oomph" what we can all wonder about.

 

[eckherl]

T-90 will be buyed in small numbers to support manufacturing lines and promote abroad sales. Until all-new MBT is designed we will not see big NEW! tank orders from RuA. But fairly complete modernezation of existing tank forces is planned which will bring T-72/T-80 tanks to T-90 level. BMP-3 is somewhat expencive, so only "premium" units will recive it. Slightly modernized BMP-2 will remain in RuA for long time. Same goes for BTR-80 and BTR-90. A lot of money will go as always to nuclear forces and associated things - like submatines, frigates, bombers, ICBM's, EW radars, space assets. Fairly sizeable chunk of money will go to SAM's of all kinds - S-400, Tor and Pantzir are quite expencive things. Land forces will recive a lot of "small" equipment such as night vision googles, new uniforms, etc - but generally no big "oomph" what we can all wonder about.

Good information, I guess I will have to still waite to see Russia`s next future battle wagon.

 

[eckherl]

In general here it was a question of personal equipment of the soldier.
T-90 will continue to buy. But there was a message that now passes last stage of tests the new tank which will become the new main battle tank.

Do you have any information on this new battle tank.

 

[IMPEREC]

Do you have any information on this new battle tank.

Only that that it is exact not "black eagle", maybe it will be something based on t-95.
Probably on a photo it, or prototipe
http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3t9512vr3.jpg

T-72/T-80 tanks to T-90 level

On responses т-80ум1 is better than т-90

BMP-3 is somewhat expencive, so only "premium" units will recive it

"premium" units will recive BMP-4

 

[Chrom]

Only that that it is exact not "black eagle", maybe it will be something based on t-95.
Probably on a photo it, or prototipe
http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3t9512vr3.jpg


On responses т-80ум1 is better than т-90

"premium" units will recive BMP-4

BMP-4 aka BTR-T is not accepted in RuA service, and from my PoV unlikely ever be.
There are next to no T80UM1 in RuA, and it is exactly on T-90 level anyway. It will not be produced - unless you want to call it upgraded T80B/U.

 

[IMPEREC]

BMP-4 aka BTR-T is not accepted in RuA service, and from my PoV unlikely ever be.

BMP-4(BMP-3M) now passes the state tests

There are next to no T80UM1 in RuA, and it is exactly on T-90 level anyway.t will not be produced - unless you want to call it upgraded T80B/U.

Omsktransmash will produce it or it(Omsktransmash) will be ruined finally

 

[eckherl]

BMP-4(BMP-3M) now passes the state tests

Omsktransmash will produce it or it(Omsktransmash) will be ruined finally

Good information - do you have a rough estimate on how many vehicles that they want to produce, also are they going to go with the bustle auto loader option on the T80UM1.

 

[Chrom]

BMP-4(BMP-3M) now passes the state tests

Omsktransmash will produce it or it(Omsktransmash) will be ruined finally

This is misunderstanding. BMP-3M is NOT BTR-T. It is slightly moderndised BMP-3.

BMP-4(BMP-3M) now passes the state tests

Omsktransmash will produce it or it(Omsktransmash) will be ruined finally

It will be ruined finally much more likely than produce anything like T-80x. But in reality Omsk plant will be kept above water by modernizing T-80 and some other vehicles (this is where confusion might arise as someone might mistake "producing new" with "upgrade producing"). If needed, goverment will also directly subsidise it.

 

[Ares]

Object 195 is the next main battle tank you might also know it as the T-95. The BMP-4 is the BMP-3M with additional armour protection such as nii stal ERA blocks or ARENA/DROZD.

 

[Chrom]

Object 195 is the next main battle tank you might also know it as the T-95. The BMP-4 is the BMP-3M with additional armour protection such as nii stal ERA blocks or ARENA/DROZD.

This is also not completely true. BTR-T was often referenced as BMP-4. BMP-3M was also referenced as BMP-4. This is useall case for russian future "public" designations. T-95 is just a concept proposal - it will not go in production, at least not in current stand for sure. Even IF in 7-10 years we will see T-95 accepted in service - it will be completely different T-95.

Either way, initial reference was what BTR-T (however you call it) will be not accepted in RuA service.

 

[danish]

Russian Millitary OverHaul

MOSCOW --- Russia has unveiled plans to replace nearly half the army's hardware by 2015. Welcomed by some as a long-overdue necessity, others question whether the plan can really be carried out.

Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov told lawmakers Wednesday the government planned to spend nearly $200 billion on the military upgrade. He said it would allow Russia to maintain its nuclear deterrent, while developing its conventional forces.

Ivanov told lawmakers the plan calls for the purchase of more than 50 new Topol-M missile complexes, 50 new bombers, and 31 ships. He said it also envisions fully re-arming 40 tank, 97 infantry and 50 parachute battalions - a level of purchasing not seen since the Soviet Union's collapse.

Ivanov said Russia's oil revenues now give it the chance to reach what he called, "a qualitatively new level in military procurement." At the same time, Ivanov voiced doubt that Russia's industry could produce the quality weaponry required by the Russian military.

Moscow-based Defense Analyst Pavel Felgenhauer says he shares the minister's concern. He says much of Russia's defense industry was lost following the collapse of the Soviet Union. What remains, he says, is not up to the task of making modern weaponry. Felgenhauer also foresees difficulties with procurement.

"They have grandiose plans of buying lots of new weapons, beginning from ICBM missiles [intercontinental ballistic missiles], to new guns and tanks. But there are problems," he said. "They are not sure what [the] prices will be because the process of procurement in Russia is totally secret, totally closed. Actually, the item prices of items procured are also secret. They are not reported at all to the public, which allows, of course, a lot of corruption."
:ar15

 

[danish]

In addition, Felgenhauer says the Russian military is in the awkward position of having money, but not the means, to buy the material it needs - in large part due to Russia's military doctrine, which forbids the defense ministry from procuring anything from abroad. He says only items made in CIS countries are approved for purchase.

Felgenhauer says this alone could seriously hinder Ivanov's plans.

Despite the substantial projected outlays, Russian President Vladimir Putin says his nation's military budget is 25 times less than that of the United States.


Looks like the Russians want to acquire weapons systems abroad!! :sniper

 

[Ares]

BTR-T was never accepted into service BMP-T was.