Make sure I got the difference between the Su-35 and Su-35BM right

[Jack Johnson]

I was a bit confused about all the SU-35 variants, can someone jsut give a quick yes or no if I got it right?

-> There was the SU-27, an air superiority fighter. They decided to develop an advanced "elite" version of it, the SU-35 "Super Flanker". However this one never entered service.

But many years later they revived the project, and developed a new advanced air superiority fighter based upon the SU-27. The so-called SU-35BM. But because the SU-35 "Super Flanker" never got deployed, the called this new plane also "SU-35".

But still the "Super Flanker" and the "SU-35BM" are two different types of planes.

...right?

 

[Scorpion82]

Short story.

In 1983 Sukhoi launched development of an advanced Su-27 derivate, which was designated T-10M/Su-27M. This was a canard equipped variant with quadruplex digital FBW, glass cockpit, new avionics and weapons. The type was evaluated by the RuAF, but ultimately rejected. For exports this aircraft often referred to as the Super Flanker (Flanker E being the official code name) was designated Su-35. After no customers were found the variant was cancelled and not further marketed.
In 2003 Sukhoi launched development of a new Flanker variant which was meant to be the final version of the Su-27 family. The aircraft received the internal designation T-10BM and as the Su-35 designation became free (through cancellation of the Su-27M) it was reused for this variant.
It's indeed an all new version which has nothing to do with the old Su-35 (T-10M/Su-27M).

Hope that clears up the question

 

[Jack Johnson]

Short story.

In 1983 Sukhoi launched development of an advanced Su-27 derivate, which was designated T-10M/Su-27M. This was a canard equipped variant with quadruplex digital FBW, glass cockpit, new avionics and weapons. The type was evaluated by the RuAF, but ultimately rejected. For exports this aircraft often referred to as the Super Flanker (Flanker E being the official code name) was designated Su-35. After no customers were found the variant was cancelled and not further marketed.
In 2003 Sukhoi launched development of a new Flanker variant which was meant to be the final version of the Su-27 family. The aircraft received the internal designation T-10BM and as the Su-35 designation became free (through cancellation of the Su-27M) it was reused for this variant.
It's indeed an all new version which has nothing to do with the old Su-35 (T-10M/Su-27M).

Hope that clears up the question

Yes it does thank you. Two different planes, but with the same intended profile of usage.

One last question: Which plane is this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Sukhoi_Su-35.jpg/800px-Sukhoi_Su-35.jpg

The german wikipedia says "SU-35 Flanker E" (The Super Flanker)

The english wikipedia says "SU-35BM" (The new SU-35)

 

[Scorpion82]

Yes it does thank you. Two different planes, but with the same intended profile of usage.

One last question: Which plane is this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Sukhoi_Su-35.jpg/800px-Sukhoi_Su-35.jpg

The german wikipedia says "SU-35 Flanker E" (The Super Flanker)

The english wikipedia says "SU-35BM" (The new SU-35)

That's one of the 5 Su-27M (old Su-35) which were evaluated by the RuAF and afterwards handed over to the Russian Knights aerobatics team. Clear distinguishing characteristics are the canards and square tipped fins.

 

[Feanor]

That's one of the 5 Su-27M (old Su-35) which were evaluated by the RuAF and afterwards handed over to the Russian Knights aerobatics team. Clear distinguishing characteristics are the canards and square tipped fins.

I think a total of 10 Su-27M were handed over, though I might be wrong.

 

[Scorpion82]

I think a total of 10 Su-27M were handed over, though I might be wrong.

Afaik it were just 5. Sukhoi built 15 Su-27M in total. 701-706 were all prototypes, 3 of which were converted from Su-27S. 6 additional pre-production aircraft (707-712) and 3 production aircraft (86-88) were built. IIRC the RuAF evaluated the 86-88 and 709 and 712. The 711 was the former Su-37 demonstrator which crashed in December 2002, while the 708 and 710 remain with KNAAPO where they were/are used for FCS and engine testing for the new Su-35 and PAK FA. The remaining Su-27M are probably retired by now. It would be nonetheless interesting to know where the other aircraft are. Afaik 701 is at Monino, but what about the rest? I've never seen any images of the 702, 704, 705, 706 and 707.