Is the f-35 the plane of the future???

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knightz33 said:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WPIF2JvVpek


I was wondering if the f-35 is really gonna help if its used to replace the f-16, av-8 and the f-18..... Billions of dollars have been spent on the f-35...will it really be of use???:confused:
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No, it's going to be utterly useless.... :confused:

A stealthy jet with the range of an F-15, the agility and airframe performance of an F-16/F-18 at a cost lower than any other modern fighter.

What do you reckon?
 
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Well, but it does not have the capability of the f-22....and they're calling it the plane of the future?:confused:
 
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Well, but it does not have the capability of the f-22....and they're calling it the plane of the future?:confused:
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What capability does the F-35 not have? Supercruise? PROVE it doesn't.

Guess what capability the F-22 doesn't have? Any weapons beyond AMRAAM, AIM-9M/X, JDAM and SDB, an electro-optical surveillance system, a 2 way data-link an international customer base....
 
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Aussie Digger A stealthy jet with the range of an F-15, the agility and airframe performance of an F-16/F-18 at a cost lower than any other modern fighter.
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L-M commercials???

Aussie Digger What do you reckon?
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I reccon it's a commercial.

Aussie Digger What capability does the F-35 not have? Supercruise? PROVE it doesn't.
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About you READ L-M FAQ???

Aussie Digger Guess what capability the F-22 doesn't have? Any weapons beyond AMRAAM, AIM-9M/X, JDAM and SDB, an electro-optical surveillance system, a 2 way data-link an international customer base....
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You'll have to do a LOT better to pass F-35 for even the CHEAP equivalent of the Raptor...
 
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And you are doing nothing more than re-printing Dassault's pathetic attempts at convincing everyone they've somehow managed to build the world's best fighter all on their own with a VERY small domestic order and NO International sales.

Even Gripen's done better. :(
 
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AD you shut down less innane threads than this. Were's the continuity?

My 2C

  • The F35 will be the most survivalble and lethal CAS/BID platform ever created.
  • It will be more affordable than other 5th gen options (ie F22)
  • It will have a "narowband" stealth that will not be anywere near as comprehensive as the VLO tech on the B2/F22, however it will still be verry hard (or nearly impossible) to detect and target using Xband radars or equipment utilising similar frequencies.
  • When its on internal weapons and fuel, it will have the raw performance of a clean F16
  • Given the EA capability of the APG 79, the APG 81 should have a very mature and more effective electronic attack (EA)
  • Given the evoloution of IR/EO & ESM, its RCS reduction will become less relevent (not irelevent) when being utilised in the air superiority role against advanced threat aircraft (i dont want to say the name).
  • Coupled with IR/EO advances, it will be right in the performance envilope that major threat platforms were designed to kill, and therefore could face some problems
  • It will be the most capable tactical strike asset on the plannet, unless the F22 takes up this role, then it will still be second and a more cost effective option.
  • It will not be very effective as an interceptor.
  • It is all of these things because it was designed to be.

Have a look at this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSafZzdv8o4

Apart from the A2A mode of the APG 81 (which is very capable), every other avionic system is designed to increase the platforms lethality and survivability in the tactical strike role. So's the "narrowband" stealth. Thats why it will be so damn good at it. (note that LPI isn't mentioned)

However there tends to be an ussumption that because LM's commercials say that the platform will be the 2nd best air superiority platform after the F22, it will, even though it wasn't designed to be. Without its LO and radar, its not the most capable performer. And its LO advantage stands to be erroded with advances in IR/EO and ESM. So then you've got a clean F16 with an APG 81 and better avionics (ok thats a bit simplistic, but in basic terms).

I'm not saying it wont be able to hold its own in A2A combat against most opponants. However I dont think it will be awesome air superiority fighter that LM is now saying it is, because it wasnt a design spcification, and its not comprehensively equiped to be.

Mod edit: Excellent point. Knigthz33 feel free to join in the multitude of threads that already exist to bag the F-35.

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AD.
 
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