Is It Real or Fake??

gf0012-aust

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It's a movie prop for a film series starring Jennifer Biel.

This is an old photo.
 

rajupaki

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What is that aircraft called? I have'nt seen it before. or it's just a hypothetical aircraft made for the film as said by gf0012-aust
 

gf0012-aust

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Thats some major Photoshop work! :lol
It's not a photoshop job. The "aircraft" was actually made to operational size and the movie makers were able to get permission to film on the carrier.

I have more shots in archives somewhere - but it's a full sized movie prop.
 

mysterious

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Woah! For a second I was like, that thing is real. Nice work by the prop people. Maybe they just gave Lockheed or Grunman, etc an idea of a futuristic design. ;)
 

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Look at the dam thing. I bet all the things it represents in the movie r in
F-22 & JSF-35, why not lease on of the F-22 or F-35 (offcourse stripped down off weapons) & make a movie. this way not only ppl who liked Air Wolf series will watch such movie but also the ppl who love real fighter jets.

This Jet looks like a huge frog with a face of a duck or a huge gigantic Duck sitting on the career.
 

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gf0012-aust said:
The Watcher said:
Thats some major Photoshop work! :lol
It's not a photoshop job. The "aircraft" was actually made to operational size and the movie makers were able to get permission to film on the carrier.

I have more shots in archives somewhere - but it's a full sized movie prop.
What do u mean by operational? Do u mean 2 say dat this thing can actualy fly?
 

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SABRE said:
gf0012-aust said:
The Watcher said:
Thats some major Photoshop work! :lol
It's not a photoshop job. The "aircraft" was actually made to operational size and the movie makers were able to get permission to film on the carrier.

I have more shots in archives somewhere - but it's a full sized movie prop.
What do u mean by operational? Do u mean 2 say dat this thing can actualy fly?
He means that it is a real fake, a full-sized fake made for a feature film and filmed while on the flight deck of a real USN aircraft carrier. Again, the object is real in a physical sense but not an real aircraft (it cannot fly, it is no real design, it is probably made out of ply-wood, carboard and papier mache)
 

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Thanx tatra but I got the point after I posted my previous msg.
 

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This airplane has been making the rounds for several weeks now, with folks being a bit confused as to whether it is the real deal.

On 18 June 2004 a scene for the upcoming Columbia Tri-Star movie "Stealth" was filmed on the flight deck aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72).
Lincoln was conducting local operations in preparation for an upcoming scheduled deployment after 10 months of dry docked Planned Incremental Availability (PIA).
About 80 cast and crew members were aboard the Everett-based aircraft carrier to shoot scenes for the Columbia Pictures action film starring Josh Lucas, Jessica Biel and Sam Shepard, The $130 million film is expected to hit theaters in 2005.

According to the back story, the F/A-37 "Talon" is a Mach 3.5, super cruise stealth fighter/bomber/interceptor with a 4000nm range. Top speed is somewhere in the Mach 4+ range.
The movie is premised on an artificial-intelligence program designed to fly jet aircraft and reduce human casualties.
Not surprisingly, one of the AI robo-pilots runs amok when Navy officials decide to use an unmanned version of the “Talonâ€.

When the plane begins attacking friendly forces, Navy pilots are called in to save the planet from artificial intelligence.
 

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I wont be waisting my money on this. I ll wait till it comes on TV.

Its a complete waist of time n money by these ppl. They should ve borrowed F-22 or F-35 or YF-23 dummy for this movie.
 

turin

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Its a complete waist of time n money by these ppl. They should ve borrowed F-22 or F-35 or YF-23 dummy for this movie.
Why is that? If you get the money, you surely are ambitious to make something more extraordinary. People now are used to f-22 and f-35, so in order to get attention you make it more spectacular. If it wouldnt have been this thing, the movie info most probably would not have been discussed here... ;)

Btw, I think its an interesting design. It kinda blends different stealth concepts esp. like YF 23 and F22 quite good and makes a rather credible evolution...despite some futuristic stuff like the engines.
 

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Just consider this jet in real scenerio. Think it exists in reality. Any thing it can do can be done by F-22 & F-35. In reality this jet will cost hack of a money while F-22/35 both be cheap compared to it.
F-22 & F-35 r stealth n so is this. F-22 also has a bomber version, this is some what bomber. F-22 & JSF-35 can take up from career so can this.
This is huge but F-22 n F-35 r not. This is easy target for F-35 n F-22 if it goes against them. Its huge for the both jets, which makes it easy target. This wont be able to fly in mountain regions, F-22 n F-35 can fly between vallies.

So its crap. Just like YF-23 was rejected , USAF would have rejected it too.
 

turin

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As I said before it was build for the entertainment industry so you simply cant evaluate it from a purely military point of view. Part of my post explained that. Second thing is that this AC clearly is a carrier based one so to compare it with the field of action of the F-22 is kinda...off limit.
You may compare it with a F-35 however the design shows remarkable differences so it should be obvious that this AC is at least expected to operate in some completely other environments. For example the engines show that some more "advanced" system is used, its abilities are completely unknown. Perhaps in the movie this thing goes mach 5 or something and goes for 3.000 miles-missions without refuelling. I really doubt that in this movie it is thought to be in the same field of capabilities as an F-35 or whatever currently is employed in the navy.

Its a movie-AC and it should be viewed upon as such.
 

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turin said:
As I said before it was build for the entertainment industry so you simply cant evaluate it from a purely military point of view. Part of my post explained that. Second thing is that this AC clearly is a carrier based one so to compare it with the field of action of the F-22 is kinda...off limit.
You may compare it with a F-35 however the design shows remarkable differences so it should be obvious that this AC is at least expected to operate in some completely other environments. For example the engines show that some more "advanced" system is used, its abilities are completely unknown. Perhaps in the movie this thing goes mach 5 or something and goes for 3.000 miles-missions without refuelling. I really doubt that in this movie it is thought to be in the same field of capabilities as an F-35 or whatever currently is employed in the navy.

Its a movie-AC and it should be viewed upon as such.
Turin I know Germans r Night Rider Fans or David Haselhoff's. The competing series agains NR was AirWolf. Although AirWolf ppl spent more than NR ppl the series could not get the audience NR held. The reason was that NR was a possiblity. The production team only added features to that car that were possible in reality while AirWolf The halicopter was criticisize on breaking all the Physics laws.
I simply c it as AirWolf, the audience which has knowledge of phyiscs n flying will talk against it, n when others will hear them they ll also turn away. Besides these kind of movies dnt servive, I dont knw why they r waisten their money on a Movie while they could ve done it in a series and earn what they spent in long term.
 

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Turin I know Germans r Night Rider Fans or David Haselhoff's. The competing series agains NR was AirWolf. Although AirWolf ppl spent more than NR ppl the series could not get the audience NR held. The reason was that NR was a possiblity. The production team only added features to that car that were possible in reality while AirWolf The halicopter was criticisize on breaking all the Physics laws.
I simply c it as AirWolf, the audience which has knowledge of phyiscs n flying will talk against it, n when others will hear them they ll also turn away. Besides these kind of movies dnt servive, I dont knw why they r waisten their money on a Movie while they could ve done it in a series and earn what they spent in long term.
Actually I liked both shows. Airwolf just had the cool look while Knight Rider was...well KR. I really cant explain the massive support that Hasselhoff is enjoying in Germany though. Maybe its his name which sounds kinda german. :D
 
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