Indonesia buying Mi-17s and Mi-35s from Russia

[drg]

Here:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailgeneral.asp?fileid=20071024154913&irec=20
Personally i'm interested in what missiles Indonesia is getting from Poland and China (though i think i may already have the answer).
In my notes...where are they... ahh here!
"Indonesia signs deal with NORINCO to jointly develop missiles with 150 km range. Argued to be CSS-N-8 'Saccade' (C-802), apparently due to Indonesia not being able to afford planes (oops! Su-30s cough cough!)"
And as for Poland: "Indonesia getting AA stuff from Polish company Bumar" dated June (2005 or 06?).
There, that stuff may be a lead...
Whaddyas think?

 

[FutureTank]

Here:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailgeneral.asp?fileid=20071024154913&irec=20
Personally i'm interested in what missiles Indonesia is getting from Poland and China (though i think i may already have the answer).
In my notes...where are they... ahh here!
"Indonesia signs deal with NORINCO to jointly develop missiles with 150 km range. Argued to be CSS-N-8 'Saccade' (C-802), apparently due to Indonesia not being able to afford planes (oops! Su-30s cough cough!)"
And as for Poland: "Indonesia getting AA stuff from Polish company Bumar" dated June (2005 or 06?).
There, that stuff may be a lead...
Whaddyas think?

The Russian press suggested the quantities are 5 Mi-35s and 16 Mi-17s.
These are in addition to the first batch of BMP-3s for the Indonesian marines.
Didn't know about the C-802 being included in the deal.

 

[paskal]

Ok heres it....
russia loan indonesia 1billion$low interest rates .......

10 Mi-17-5 air mobility helicopters.
5 Mi-35PN attack helicopters.
30 BMP-3 IFV.
2 type 636 KILO CLASS diesel electric submarines.
3 su-30
3 su-27


One more thing that caught my eyes.
INdonesia is planning to have 44 su-30 mki in 2014[damn that a lot]

sorry you guys i got all this source fromthe TEMPUR magazine.

 

[paskal]

Here:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailgeneral.asp?fileid=20071024154913&irec=20
Personally i'm interested in what missiles Indonesia is getting from Poland and China (though i think i may already have the answer).
In my notes...where are they... ahh here!
"Indonesia signs deal with NORINCO to jointly develop missiles with 150 km range. Argued to be CSS-N-8 'Saccade' (C-802), apparently due to Indonesia not being able to afford planes (oops! Su-30s cough cough!)"
And as for Poland: "Indonesia getting AA stuff from Polish company Bumar" dated June (2005 or 06?).
There, that stuff may be a lead...
Whaddyas think?

The missle that indonesia is devolopping is it good?
jusy wanna be clear will it be launch from aircraft or land?

 

[paskal]

Here:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailgeneral.asp?fileid=20071024154913&irec=20
Personally i'm interested in what missiles Indonesia is getting from Poland and China (though i think i may already have the answer).
In my notes...where are they... ahh here!
"Indonesia signs deal with NORINCO to jointly develop missiles with 150 km range. Argued to be CSS-N-8 'Saccade' (C-802), apparently due to Indonesia not being able to afford planes (oops! Su-30s cough cough!)"
And as for Poland: "Indonesia getting AA stuff from Polish company Bumar" dated June (2005 or 06?).
There, that stuff may be a lead...
Whaddyas think?

just wanna ask the missle that indonesia is devolopping is it good?
just wanna be clear will it be launched from ground or from a aircraft?

I also heard that indonesia is plannig to buy the BRAHAMOS cruised missle.
If they do that the will be the first in SEA to have a medium range cruise missle [300 km]

 

[Aussie Digger]

just wanna ask the missle that indonesia is devolopping is it good?
just wanna be clear will it be launched from ground or from a aircraft?

I also heard that indonesia is plannig to buy the BRAHAMOS cruised missle.
If they do that the will be the first in SEA to have a medium range cruise missle [300 km]

If they introduce it before Australia introduces JASSM...

 

[FutureTank]

Ok heres it....
russia loan indonesia 1billion interest rates .......

10 Mi-17-5 air mobility helicopters.
5 Mi-35PN attack helicopters.
30 BMP-3 IFV.
2 type 636 KILO CLASS diesel electric submarines.
3 su-30
3 su-27


One more thing that caught my eyes.
INdonesia is planning to have 44 su-30 mki in 2014[damn that a lot]

sorry you guys i got all this source from the TEMPUR magazine.

This is just the induction deliveries. The orders were much larger, but due to the tsuname disaster the decision was to break the full order into smaller parts because Russia doesn't provide credit like USSR did.
Aside from more SU-30s, there will be more helicopters (one attack and to transport squadrons for a full airmobile regiment), and a squadron (battalion) of BMP-3s for each of the three marine brigades. Originally there were plans for 4 subs, the other two being of a different class.

 

[paskal]

I can bet once the TNI creates a missle that can reach malaysia or even singapore they will be war of words among countries

 

[FutureTank]

I can bet once the TNI creates a missile that can reach Malaysia or even Singapore they will be war of words among countries

Its a complex region.

 

[drg]

I've just gone back over my section on Indonesia, and there's actually a second possibility regarding a possible missile buy by Indonesia from China. It turns out that Indonesia may only be seeking Air-to-Air missiles from China. Sorry about that, i should have noticed it in my notes earlier...

 

[FutureTank]

I've just gone back over my section on Indonesia, and there's actually a second possibility regarding a possible missile buy by Indonesia from China. It turns out that Indonesia may only be seeking Air-to-Air missiles from China. Sorry about that, i should have noticed it in my notes earlier...

This is more likely because the deal with purchase of more Sukhois has been knocked back. It may be that Indonesia may secure funding for purchase of J-10s from China, or purchase of Chinese licensed versions of Sukhois.

 

[qwerty223]

This is more likely because the deal with purchase of more Sukhois has been knocked back. It may be that Indonesia may secure funding for purchase of J-10s from China, or purchase of Chinese licensed versions of Sukhois.

Neither J-11/J-11B nor J-10 had a chance to export. Both of them are license produce or component of license produce. And components of them are money machine of the Russian. The Russian will not give up them so easily.

 

[FutureTank]

Neither J-11/J-11B nor J-10 had a chance to export. Both of them are license produce or component of license produce. And components of them are money machine of the Russian. The Russian will not give up them so easily.

Indonesia was planning to purchase about 50 Sukhois, so all sorts of deals are possible.

 

[qwerty223]

Indonesia was planning to purchase about 50 Sukhois, so all sorts of deals are possible.

was planning or is planning?
It seems to me TNI wants to focus its AF all on SU-27 series., that left J-11B on the table if TNI wants a Chinese source a/c. But J-11B is essentially a SU-27SK replica with maybe MK standard upgrades. Its still under a license produce, and that means use only, not for commercial propose. But if you are talking about weapon suits, PL series missiles are good in the run.

 

[FutureTank]

was planning or is planning?
It seems to me TNI wants to focus its AF all on SU-27 series., that left J-11B on the table if TNI wants a Chinese source a/c. But J-11B is essentially a SU-27SK replica with maybe MK standard upgrades. Its still under a license produce, and that means use only, not for commercial propose. But if you are talking about weapon suits, PL series missiles are good in the run.

Was planning because the second batch of Sukhois is now under question, and certain to be delayed.
So far as commercial license agreements that involve Russia and China, I can only say that "we are not in Kansas any more", and that goes double for Indonesia.

 

[tphuang]

was planning or is planning?
It seems to me TNI wants to focus its AF all on SU-27 series., that left J-11B on the table if TNI wants a Chinese source a/c. But J-11B is essentially a SU-27SK replica with maybe MK standard upgrades. Its still under a license produce, and that means use only, not for commercial propose. But if you are talking about weapon suits, PL series missiles are good in the run.

what the heck are you talking about?
do a little research and stop making comments about what China are allowed and not allowed to export.
Either way, they would be offering at most JF-17 to Indonesia at the moment.

 

[qwerty223]

what the heck are you talking about?
do a little research and stop making comments about what China are allowed and not allowed to export.
Either way, they would be offering at most JF-17 to Indonesia at the moment.

yea... Chinese always had this fantasy. Note that I dint mention about JF-17. That is another case.
Wait till one day export of J-11B/10 become a fact, then only you shout "what the heck". For the moment, you should stop dreaming.

 

[qwerty223]

what the heck are you talking about?
do a little research and stop making comments about what China are allowed and not allowed to export.
Either way, they would be offering at most JF-17 to Indonesia at the moment.

yea... Chinese always had this fantasy. Note that I dint mention about JF-17. That is another case.
Wait till one day export of J-11B/10 become a fact, then only you shout"what the heck". For the moment, you should stop dreaming.

 

[FutureTank]

yea... Chinese always had this fantasy. Note that I dint mention about JF-17. That is another case.
Wait till one day export of J-11B/10 become a fact, then only you shout"what the heck". For the moment, you should stop dreaming.

Its a fact...China to Sell J-10 Fighter to Iran and Syria is expected

 

[isthvan]

Its a fact...China to Sell J-10 Fighter to Iran and Syria is expected

Wrong... Only source is Kommersant(same source that reported that they want to buy 250 Su-30s). That much about credibility of that report... For time being all J-10 coming from production lines will go to PLAAF and only possible foreign user in foreseeable future is Pakistan... I'm not saying that J-10 wont be exported but at the time being there is no way that they will export planes to Iran and Syria...