GCC/Iran the nuclear arms race

gulfsecurity

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At gulfsecurity.blogspot.com they say that After Conventional arms race the GCC states and Iran are heading to the nuclear arms race. Are they?
 

Grand Danois

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At gulfsecurity.blogspot.com they say that After Conventional arms race the GCC states and Iran are heading to the nuclear arms race. Are they?
Instead of referring directly to your blog, why don't you post your input & views, i.e. contribute. That is the primary purpose of your posting here on DT, not advertising for your blog.
 

Incognito129

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I dont think the middle east will get nuclear weapons without North Korea.

Most Iranian ICBM's are derivatives of N.K. design.

I dont know and Im not commenting on what will happen in the future but if N.K. becomes absorbed into S.K. no such race will happen.
 

Stryker001

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not if the US strike on Iran is going to happen soon.
Due to the aging populations and the unpopularity of the war in 2006, the doctrine of *beep* and linking it to world war two was developed.

This was done in preparation for conflict with Iran, that window has since passed. Partly due to Iranian involvement in Iraq and the need to conduct the surge.

Iran is being currently watched, part of the reason the President has made statements about Iran after the NIE and on his tour of gulf countries, to see if any escalation of Iran involvement occurs inside Iraq.

things are moving under the surface.
 
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gulfsecurity

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Instead of referring directly to your blog, why don't you post your input & views, i.e. contribute. That is the primary purpose of your posting here on DT, not advertising for your blog.
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I do post input & views and by Referring to gulfsecurity.blogspot.com I aim to get you to other gulf security issues. I'm not selling anything to advertise for my blog. To generate more discussions supported by information from someone living in Kuwait between the 3 great nations of Iraq Iran and Saudi is the primary purpose of my posting..
 

nevidimka

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The Iran war i believe will always be on the US agenda. It doesnt mean that once Bush is out, the war will not happen. Any successive presidents, can easily shift their focus to IRan midterm n start a war. All they need is evidence of nuclear race by Iran or the escalating tension in Mid east because of Iran. 1 false move by Iran will be the only thing that US needs to attack it, Coz i belive the pentagon is very much in favour of neutralizing Iran.

And about Nuclear boms. I think its easier to build a nuclear bomb than to build a proper 4th gen fighter jet. Look at India n China. So i dont think nuclear is out of reach to Iran if they put thier effort to it.
 

Aliph Ahmed

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I believe that Iran going nuclear is inevitable unless the USA is willing for a ground invasion. (Which by looking at the current overstretching is unlikely)

  • Iran has mastered the centrifuge technology and right now running a pilot program of P2s which are twice as sophisticated in addition to 3,000 P1s running at 10% capacity as of now.
  • In case of strikes, Iran will simply go underground to several unknown locations instead of the few known locations currently.

  • Only way to really stop Iran going nuclear will be a full fledge ground invasion. Knowing that Iran is the most populous Middle Eastern country plus majority of Shias at Iraq that are not yet in fully fledgly involved in the fight will be too much to be handled for the USA and coalition.

  • Current Economic state of USA can ill afford another war.

Therefore, I believe that Iran going nuclear is simply inevitable.
 

Stryker001

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The Kingdoms will not tolerate a nuclear-armed Iran. With these terrorists, State’s or otherwise, financial markets will be a key target. The UAE with the movement of global corporations establishing headquarters in its territories is a target for Iranian aggression.

As for troops on the ground other than spec-ops to target there conventional missile batteries etc, it will be an air war. Many lessons were learned from operation anaconda and the use of air power. It is more likely that Iran will try to cross over into Iraq.

If anybody thinks that Iraq wants a nuclear neighbor able to pressure and exploit its oil reserves in the future is surely mistaken.


At the end of the day if permission to attack Iran is not granted Mossad will use a suitcase nuclear device in downtown Tehran. The Jews get blamed for every assassination that occurs anyhow in the Mideast.

No one knowns what happened to the Russian suitcase bombs (except Russia) anyhow so it could always be a terrorist organization that did it.
 

Aliph Ahmed

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The Kingdoms will not tolerate a nuclear-armed Iran. With these terrorists, State’s or otherwise, financial markets will be a key target. The UAE with the movement of global corporations establishing headquarters in its territories is a target for Iranian aggression.

As for troops on the ground other than spec-ops to target there conventional missile batteries etc, it will be an air war. Many lessons were learned from operation anaconda and the use of air power. It is more likely that Iran will try to cross over into Iraq.

If anybody thinks that Iraq wants a nuclear neighbor able to pressure and exploit its oil reserves in the future is surely mistaken.


At the end of the day if permission to attack Iran is not granted Mossad will use a suitcase nuclear device in downtown Tehran. The Jews get blamed for every assassination that occurs anyhow in the Mideast.

No one knowns what happened to the Russian suitcase bombs (except Russia) anyhow so it could always be a terrorist organization that did it.
You are not getting me.

Iran has mastered the centrifuge technology and is enriching at a few known locations. Air strikes will simply prompt them to restart their program at several dozen unknown locations.

Only way to stop Iran is a ground invasion. Anything short wil not do. Something which is very unlikely in the current circusmtances. Heck, Coalition forces cant even control a 25 million people Iraq. How will they control 80 million people Iran + 25 million people Iraq ?
 

Stryker001

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will probably restart the insurgency inside Iraq due the latest statements coming out of Tehran after the latest report on the atomic program.

Tehran has spoken to Hizbullah, which would have spoken to Hamas, meaning that operations against Israel will resume also. Iran and Venezuela will also try to push up oil prices to force a recession on their enemies.

While much comment has been made of Iran nuclear program, little is known of their biological programs.
 
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Stryker001

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Another two rounds of sanctions are require to bring Iran to heel, they will not support an increase in OPEC productions either, to insulate themselves against the sanctions via a higher oil price and less availability.

China will not support the final round of sanctions, as it will affect the PRC strategically. So it is a failed policy.
 

Khairul Alam

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At gulfsecurity.blogspot.com they say that After Conventional arms race the GCC states and Iran are heading to the nuclear arms race. Are they?
Before answering whether the GCC states are going to enter a nuclear arms race, we have to answer whether they CAN. We all know about the nature of the technological base of the GCC states. These states havent yet entered into the field of advanced R&D, and weapons design and development. Their militaries face a hard time to get qualified personnel, which clearly indicates the lack of able manpower.
But the situation is slowly changing. The GCC states are slowly building up their knowledge and technology base, especially in the defense sector, thanks to transfer of technology from weapons suppliers. But it would be decades before these states can have their indigenous nuclear weapons programs. Transfer of technology from friendly states would surely speed up the process.
For the time being, the best bet for the GCC would be to obtain nuclear weapons from another country..how it can be done is another question.
 

Izzy1

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I guess that would be the very, very wishful thinking Pakistani option again?
 
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