F-22 silver bullet purchases

[DRUB]

This is going of what Aussie Digger said, but, which country is likely to purchase a silver bullet package of F-22's??

Personally, i think there are some main contenders such as Israel and the U.K. Australia is also a likely contender to be permitted to purchase this aircraft, but, is unlikely due to the excessive costs of such a package.

What about Canada? It really doesnt have a excessive requirement for such a package, however, with an airforce structrure similar to the RAAF it does seem plausable.

 

[awais786]

well,up till now,US has no buyers and wants no buyers for F-22,countries wont buy it cause its expensive and etc
USA wont sell it,cause its their latest techonlgy and giving it to any other nation might be dangerous.so USA plans to keep F-22 in serivce till 2040,and might sell it to other countries after 2030 or so:dbanana :rel

 

[Air Marshal]

No doubt F-22 is goood aircraft as compare to US other aircrafts but US have

no idea to sell it to others countries bcz they want to make it more effective in

Air combat.....

Role: Air superiority fighter
Builder: Lockheed Martin / Boeing
Variants: YF-22A, F/A-22A
Operators: USAF

The F-22 Raptor is the world's first stealth air-to-air fighter. It is developed to replace the F-15C in the air superiority role. The F-22 is the first production aircraft with the ability to super cruise – flying at supersonic speeds without the use of afterburners.

The plane's builder Lockheed Martin Corp has built several F-22s for test purposes. Most are at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., undergoing a series of tests. Last year the pentagon approved production plans for an initial batch of 13 production aircraft.

Recently the designation for the Raptor was changed to F/A-22 to indicate the possible air-to-ground role of the aircraft. JDAM bombs can be carried in the internal weapon bay, while the optional external pylons offer a more flexible station for air-to-ground armament.



Specifications:

Powerplant: Two Pratt & Whitney F119-P-100 turbofan each rated at 155.69 KN (35,000 lb st) with afterburning
Length: 18.92 m

Height: 5.0 m

Wing span: 13.56 m
Weights: Empty more than 13.608 kg (30,000 lb); Max Take-Off Weight 26.308 kg (58,000 lb)
Max speed: Mach 1.58 in supercruise and Mach 1.7 in afterburning mode

Service ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft)

G limit: +7.9

Armament: One 20mm M61A2 Vulcan six-barrel gun with 480 rounds; 2 AIM-9X Sidewinder IR-guided missiles in internal side

bays. Up to 6 AIM-120C or 4 AIM-120A AMRAAM missiles in internal fuselage weapon bays or 2 AIM-120C AMRAAMs and 2 GBU-32 JDAM bombs or 2 GBU-30 JDAM bombs. Up to four fuel tanks and up to 8 missiles can be carried on optional external hardpoints. (Reportedly there are plans for a F/A-22C with larger weapon bays capable or carrying a larger selection of Air-to-Ground weapons and weapons such as the AGM-88 HARM).

 

[DRUB]

i disagree about the U.S not wanting to sell it or nations wanting to buy it. Even now, the military the U.S sells has safegaurds. Technology is rarely transfered, especially with new discoveries. Also, the question was regarding silver bullet purchases, meaning, 2-3 squadrons. Large air forces may actually purchase something in that size.

 

[awais786]

i disagree about the U.S not wanting to sell it or nations wanting to buy it. Even now, the military the U.S sells has safegaurds. Technology is rarely transfered, especially with new discoveries. Also, the question was regarding silver bullet purchases, meaning, 2-3 squadrons. Large air forces may actually purchase something in that size.

well,just cause USA doesnt transferr techonlgy,doesnt mean that countries that will buy F-22 wont copy it illigaly,rumers are that PAKISTAN gave CHINA one of their F-16s to copy and thats how JF-17 was build

 

[adsH]

well,just cause USA doesnt transferr techonlgy,doesnt mean that countries that will buy F-22 wont copy it illigaly,rumers are that PAKISTAN gave CHINA one of their F-16s to copy and thats how JF-17 was build

Rumors will be rumors, Any one whose gone through a decent UG and PG program in the Aeronautics can work out what an F-16 is. you just need to work on designs and if your talking about 25 year old electronics onboard then you must really lack something up north!!!. Advance CAD software makes Engineers works easier too.

 

[kashifshahzad]

well,just cause USA doesnt transferr techonlgy,doesnt mean that countries that will buy F-22 wont copy it illigaly,rumers are that PAKISTAN gave CHINA one of their F-16s to copy and thats how JF-17 was build

May be there is a chance for the manufacturing of not only JF-17 Thunder and the other planes line J-10's........

 

[Attila]

This is about all the upgrading Canada will be doing to our warbirds...

Defence Minister Kicks Off Phase II of CF-18 Upgrades

NR-05.016 - February 18, 2005

OTTAWA — The second phase of the CF-18 Modernization Project kicked off today during a ceremony that saw the Boeing Company sign a contract with the Department of National Defence for $117 million. Defence Minister Bill Graham and Lieutenant-General Ken Pennie, Chief of the Air Staff, attended the ceremony held by Boeing in Mirabel, Québec.

“The CF-18 is Canada’s primary aircraft for maintaining air defence and air superiority,†said Minister Graham. “The $2.1-billion CF-18 modernization program will ensure that the CF-18s continue to provide security to Canadians and defend Canada, both at home and abroad, well into the future.â€

The fighter jets will be equipped with a secure data and communications link that allows CF-18 crews to stay in constant contact with other jets, ground stations, and airborne warning and control systems (AWACS) to maintain awareness in their constantly evolving environment. New state-of-the-art colour display panels will provide pilots with improved access to flight data and communications. Their helmets will feature new visors that display readings from the instrument panel, so that pilots can maintain visual contact with a target and not look down. The aircraft will also be outfitted with a new missile countermeasures chaff/flare dispenser.

“This contract will ensure we have up-to-date aircraft and increased interoperability with our allies,†said Lieutenant-General Pennie. “The CF-18 is key to the Air Force’s job of guarding North American airspace and protecting Canada’s interests abroad.â€

The modernization program, based on the US Navy’s F-18 Hornet upgrade, was found to be the most cost-effective and lowest risk solution for modernizing Canada’s CF-18s. The first phase of modernization, also contracted to Boeing, has just passed the midway point and is on target for completion in 2006.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=1602

 

[adsH]

HAs anyone read the Article AFM FeedBack section on the page 72, titled "American Fighter Supremacy", i wish i could put it up here, but i'm sure it would break some-sort of Intellectual Property rights.

Well apparently Two RAF eurofighter on there first ever training sortie jumped two USAF F-15 in a fist fight. it took 60 seconds before the two F-15 were waggling there Wings acknowledging defeat. the Only person who has flow both platforms i think he's an american general, claims the Euro-fighter is technically equal to the F-22 but they have dissimilar roles thaaa!!. And termed Eurofighters performance as being "Extremely impressive" the Euro fighter has been pitted against the Spanish F-18 and they claim the F-18 wasn't a match and the same goes for the Singaporean F-16. later that evening in the mess the defeated F-15 pilot was quoted saying "What the F*** was that"( He was confused Damn!!). We have to bare in mind these typhoons were trainers on there first Sortie, and did not incorporate anyof the newer Add-on in the trench two.

 

[SABRE]

adsH like Rafales, EF-2000's performance should be tested against the best of USAF,Navy & Marines. Remember Rafale was/is being tested by US-Marines. But I dont know for what reason neither France nor US (marines) have disclosed the Rafale's performance. Since LH-M is playing some role in EF-2000 my guess is that it would be tested against F/A-22 Raptor. I dont think JSF-35 will meet the challange of EF-2000.

Undoubtly EF-2000 is the 2nd to F-22. Unlike F-22 its not stealthy but niether is stealth its requirement. Ef-2000 can fight even at the speed at mach 2 & fight on continiously. It shoots missile in 180 degree directions specialy with helmet mounted systems of pilots. Now offcourse with such tech n degrees of attack any aircrafts pilot fighting against EF-2000 would say "What the Fu....was that?" .... The best way to counter EF-2000 is to stay on its tail & the best way to defened ur aircraft against F-22 is not to take it to the air up against it. Stay on the ground.

The main question is how does the AC react to BVR missiles attack e.g: AIM-120 AMRAAM & ground to air weapons like SAMs. Errrrrr....wait SAMs wont work since EF-2000 doesnt use after burner. You'll have to go behind it.

 

[adsH]

The Ef2000 was built for something different, it was built to be the best in fights in close inn combat i have no dout the Eurofighter would eat up the F-22 (close range). but the F-22 would take stab at the Euro fighter before the Euro fighter would be able to see the F-22. NOw you can add in the USAF and RAF's E3d's and you have units that are very evenly matched. the EF-2000 is something not even a F-22 pilot would like to go to war against the USAF General i quoted earlier, didn't wan't to admit that the EF2000 was evenly matched in performance since Hostile nations would have a bench mark to test there platforms against. the Euro fighter in close inn fights is deadly and maneuverability blended with its world class Electronics is unmatched. the F-22 is a stealth platform designed for a different kind of engagement (longer range) it has had to compensate, however little on maneuverability. The Reason why the Eurofighter has no stealth features is because it was built with a philosophy (not because we don't know how design stealthier AC). not much stealth/Maneuverability trade offs were allowed on the EF2000.

I can add to the Above that the High G tolerance turning abilities of the eurofighter would only be complemented by the New TVC System being considered.

 

[adsH]

The best way to counter EF-2000 is to stay on its tail

there is no way a super maneuverable AC would let any old Skunk in on its tale the whole idea of the Eurofighter is to be more maneuverable and more capable then the next AC. The EW systems alone might do some serious Damage. We'r nott just fighting with bullets here.

& the best way to defened ur aircraft against F-22 is not to take it to the air up against it. Stay on the ground.

That might of been the Iraqi excuse lol it was pathetic !!!!It was the best Comedy show that ive ever seen.

 

[moha]

adsH like Rafales, EF-2000's performance should be tested against the best of USAF,Navy & Marines. Remember Rafale was/is being tested by US-Marines. But I dont know for what reason neither France nor US (marines) have disclosed the Rafale's performance. Since LH-M is playing some role in EF-2000 my guess is that it would be tested against F/A-22 Raptor. I dont think JSF-35 will meet the challange of EF-2000.

Undoubtly EF-2000 is the 2nd to F-22. Unlike F-22 its not stealthy but niether is stealth its requirement. Ef-2000 can fight even at the speed at mach 2 & fight on continiously. It shoots missile in 180 degree directions specialy with helmet mounted systems of pilots. Now offcourse with such tech n degrees of attack any aircrafts pilot fighting against EF-2000 would say "What the Fu....was that?" .... The best way to counter EF-2000 is to stay on its tail & the best way to defened ur aircraft against F-22 is not to take it to the air up against it. Stay on the ground.

The main question is how does the AC react to BVR missiles attack e.g: AIM-120 AMRAAM & ground to air weapons like SAMs. Errrrrr....wait SAMs wont work since EF-2000 doesnt use after burner. You'll have to go behind it.

hahaha i guess you really dont have any idea about F-22!!! Man in order to fight F-22 you have to track it down or have to get close it lol right?
let me tell you one thing F-22 cant be detected and if so its too late because it will kill u b4 u even know it can shoot down F15c at the range of 80 miles away!! it means that u dont know that where is it or where it comeing from coz its stealth!!!
I know its sucks coz it deosnt have any compateter and its not fair so talking about comparing it with anyother world class fighter forget it brother USAF is too far to be caught