Difference between Oz and American boot camps?

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Dryotriorchis

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[font=&quot]I’ll be joining the Australian Defence Force as a coms operator in September. But meanwhile, I was wondering, as a comparison between Australia and America, how does each countries basic boot camp differ between each other In ways such as activities undertake, lessons learnt, etc. I tried to goggle this but couldn’t really find anything.:confused: [/font]
 
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Dryotriorchis said:
[font=&quot]I’ll be joining the Australian Defence Force as a coms operator in September. But meanwhile, I was wondering, as a comparison between Australia and America, how does each countries basic boot camp differ between each other In ways such as activities undertake, lessons learnt, etc. I tried to goggle this but couldn’t really find anything.:confused: [/font]
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I can't say for sure, never having attended basic training in the US, but I can say for certain that you don't get a medal just for passing it in Australia, unlike America...

Btw enjoy Sale. I found it a cold, wet, miserable place to learn about Antenna theory. You might like it though... :p:

Seriously though best of luck. Are you joining the Signals Corps or another Corps working as a Sig?
 
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Seriously though best of luck. Are you joining the Signals Corps or another Corps working as a Sig?
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so you're going to be a chook? ;)
 
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Snayke

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Where abouts do you want to be stationed? I was considering joining the ADF doing an apprenticeship or as a rifleman. I find it very appealling to serve the country. Although I think I should wait until I have finished my HSC before making a decision. =)
 
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Dryotriorchis

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We I’m joining the RASIGS. So yeah a chook I guess. After Kapooka I’m down to Victoria somewhere for my job training. I’m really looking forward to it and the time till I actually get to go Is going to slowly, though I bet after 2 days there I’ll be crying in a corner somewhere.



Yeah I don’t know where I want to be posted, right now, I just want to concentrate on getting to the point where I get to be posted somewhere. But I think Darwin, Sydney or Perth might be good.



Thanks guys for your comments so far guys. :D
 
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Snayke

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Kapooka is near Wagga Wagga. Heh, I been kinda looking around for information regarding what it would be like. I had a look at the Sydney base(Holsworthy Military Base) and it's a rather large base. On the map there's like 6 sports fields. It stretches from around campbelltown to northwest of Liverpool.

You do have preference of where you want to be stationed. If they have a spot, they'll send you there. If I do go, I'll want to be stationed in Holsworthy. ^_^

Good luck with your training though.

EDIT: NSW. *slaps self* Where abouts in NSW?
 
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Yeah, I know a little about most the bases. My cousin-in-law (if that’s even a real term) is a commando and is based at Holsworthy at the moment and a number of my other relatives are/have been in the army or whatever. I’m south of Sydney a bit (about 2hs), so Sydney appeals to me as that way I can still come down here on weekends or whatever to visit my friends. Other then for that reason, I don’t exactly have a preference to where I go for any real reason.

It would be great to know as well what the American equivalent of an Oz Communications Operator is and how both their training differs.
 
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Snayke

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Okay, so you're about an hour south of me. :p

Near Nowra perhaps?

(And no, cousin-in-law is not a real term. :p)

Also, I'm not sure of the job you want but is that general enlistment or did you get in through ADFA? >_> Wait, if you were doing ADFA, you would be training at ADFA... or something.

I'm confused.
 
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I guess that would be fine – goggle a BMI calculator on goggle, I suppose if that come sup good you should be fine. When I saw the nurse as part of my process she did a BMI calculation on me, and I’m 185cm and only around 65kg and I was fine. But umm a little advice, as soon as you know what you want to do, apply. It takes ages for the process to go through. I applied about 3 or 4 months ago and it wont be another 3 till I leave :D



Now back on subject, anyone have any good info for me about my original question ?:D
 
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Snayke

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I'm still 16. :p I was gonna apply on or after December 4 because that's when I turn 16 and 9 months which is when I can begin applying. The recruiter said that. So the application process will take 3-4 months and as soon as I hit 17 I'm in. ;)

So my BMI should be fine then? Good. That just leaves the fitness and other tests. I'm still crafting my daily routine. So far I do 60 push ups and 100 sit ups before I goto bed. But that's not enough. I need to do runs or something but it has been raining. I was thinking of running back and forth in my backyard and practice for the shuttle run.

My days are boring without school. How old are you by the way?
 
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Dryo, if you are going to RASIGS, you'll be attending the School of Sigs at Sale Victoria, for your IET training. I can't comment on US basic as I said, but at Kapooka you'll be attending for 6 weeks, plus an additional 4 (I think nowadays) "advanced basic" course for ARA personnel.

You will learn the joy of drill, get to experience "the challenge", which I've heard is considerably less than the 13k's we did back in '94' and understand that NCO's work for a living... Just learn to call an NCO by his rank, not "sir". WO's and above are sir...

You'll get yelled at a lot, get jabbed with quite a few needles, have a lovely looking haircut and get used to eating, showering, shaving, and dressing extremely quickly. You'll be placed under a fair amount of pressure at times, but remember, it's all a game. The object is for you to learn and pass. Not fail. Your instructors simply want to see you "putting in" and trying your best. That's all they want...

Snayke, don't worry about "training" for a shuttle run. It's a test of cardio-vascular endurance, not a test of how well you can run 6 metres... Just do a lot of normal cardio training and you'll be fine. Don't worry about your weight either. Running's easier when you're lighter and your running ability is far more important than strength in your initial stages. Keep it up with the push ups and situps.

The old "level 11" fitness standard as part of a soldier's AIRN (Army Individual Readiness Notice) compliance was 100 push-ups, 100 situps and a 2.4k run in varying times depending on your age, but typically around sub 8 minute 2.4k runs... If you can manage less 2.4k's on flat ground in under 8 minutes, you'll blitz the shuttle run...
 
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:D Thanks AD, can't wait for it !! Although i'm not really looking foward to needles and i'll just have to remember not to yell back at the instructors, unless thats what they want:D
 
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:D Thanks AD, can't wait for it !! Although i'm not really looking foward to needles and i'll just have to remember not to yell back at the instructors, unless thats what they want:D
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No problems. You'll learn the phrase, "Yes Corporal", is about all they want to hear initially...
 
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Snayke

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I have plenty of time to remember the ranks and the insignia. Hehe. I haven't been able to go out for morning runs since it has been pouring down raining. I'm going to melbourne tomorrow so maybe I can run around the block there. I'm also gonna get my dad to put a metal bar in the backyard so when I come back I can do pull ups. I got 6 months til I do my application. ^_^ My main objective is to get more fit.

I don't mind my weight. I'd rather be wirey than bulky. ;)
 
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Dryotriorchis

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Snayke said:
I have plenty of time to remember the ranks and the insignia. Hehe. I haven't been able to go out for morning runs since it has been pouring down raining. I'm going to melbourne tomorrow so maybe I can run around the block there. I'm also gonna get my dad to put a metal bar in the backyard so when I come back I can do pull ups. I got 6 months til I do my application. ^_^ My main objective is to get more fit.

I don't mind my weight. I'd rather be wirey than bulky. ;)
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You better learn the ranks, etc. Part of the application is learning them. If you can't name them of the top of your head, they wont let you in, but it's easy. Actully you have to learn a litlte bit before they let you in, like detaisl about your chosen jobs, etc.
 
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[font=&quot]Oh I have another question. On one of the sheets the recruit guys sent me about what to expect at training, it says that a week or so from when you get there you do a swim test, now I’m pretty sure ill be fine with the 30m swim, but I ah kinda don’t know how to tread water, never really learnt/shown how:rolleyes:. So I was wondering, do they just expect that you know how to do it already, cus I’m sure I could stumble along with it for a while, but having to do it for 2 mins in clothes might be a bit difficult for me with out getting in some practice first.. any help would be great.:D [/font]
 
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In the Pus it was something like treading water for 15 mins in overalls if memory is correct it's more a question of technique than stamina.
 
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