C-130 crash
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Got a link or any information at all?
Changed your title to something a little less inflammatory.
This is really bad.
It wasn't a cargo run, it was carrying soldiers and their families. Reports suggest around 100 killed, many injured.
Air Force Hercules crashes in East Java | The Jakarta Post
Booms heard before Indonesia air crash - Asia-Pacific - msnbc.com
It wasn't a cargo run, it was carrying soldiers and their families. Reports suggest around 100 killed, many injured.
Air Force Hercules crashes in East Java | The Jakarta Post
Booms heard before Indonesia air crash - Asia-Pacific - msnbc.com
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The Bunker Group
You can see much of the information on current situation relating to this C-130 crash, and the state of our C-130 fleet from this site; ALUTSISTA : ALAT UTAMA SISTEM SENJATA Regretfully it's in Bahasa Indonesia.
This particullar aircraft actually to our standard is quite new. The registered numbers of the downed aircraft was A-1325 indicating this is the 25th C-130 that our Air Force received.
Acording to some sources in here say that TNI AU throughout time already received:
10 C 130B & 2 KC-130B (all received in the 60's)
4 C 130 H; 6 C 130 HS & 2 C 130 H MP (all received in the 80's)
3 L 100 ( Civilian version of C 130, received from state owned airlines in th early 90's)
Off that 7 of them already downed (including this latest one), for mostly due to accidents (one of them due to ground AA at the time of Confrontations with British/Commenwealth/Malaya in the 60's).
Thus 7 C 130 downed: 3 C 130 B, 3 C 130 H & 1 L 100
This aircraft actually has only been a year ago have complete structural overhaul and engine replacement.
The air force aim to have all C 130 B & L 100 engines to be modified/replaced to Allison 56-15 (standard C 130 H engine). And this particullar aircraft already have this engine replacement.
Considering the aircraft originated from VIP Squadron in Jakarta, also with info it just received engine replacement last year, and the registered numbers..all indicating this is actually a L 100
Currently the airforce agenda is having all 9 surviving C-130B and KC-130B to be upgraded (engine and structural) in ST aerospace facility (5 of them) and IAe/IPTN facilty (4 of them).
The plan to have:
1st sq with 9 C 130 H/HS
2nd sq with 9 C 130 B
2 L 100 attach with VIP sq (now only 1 left since the crash, and the other L 100 already in bad conditions, considered not worth to retrofit).
This accident has open debate in here on the wisdom of having Structural and engine upgrading for all C 130 B and L 100. However if the air force stop the upgrading process, than it means one from two C-130 squadrons will have to be closed, since exisiting C 130 H only can equip one squadron.
Locheed according to the Defence Ministry actually already submit proposals for 4 C 130 J, but much doubt at present situations we can afford that.
However if we decided to scrap all C 130 B and L 100, and maintain only surviving C 130 H/HS, there's potential we can afford to have those 4 C 130 J, but than it means only having half C130 from 20 that we have now.
Many in the air force don't like the idea on halving their precious C 130, and want to maintain all of them through upgrading.
Again this accident reopened the debated on the wisdom buying new (but much less aircraft) or maintain the numbers through upgradings.
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