BVR missiles to be bought by India...which ones?
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Apocalypse
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Are you refferring to this article?
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200702181150.htm
This would probably be the R-77M1, with a range of about 175 km or maybe the MBDA Meteor. Even the R-37 seems a possibility.
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200702181150.htm
This would probably be the R-77M1, with a range of about 175 km or maybe the MBDA Meteor. Even the R-37 seems a possibility.
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I think it depends largely on which MRCA India buys. If it buys US, it's almost certain AMRAAM will be acquired and probably AIM-9X, to "improve" on PAF's AIM-9M 8/9's. Same if Gripen is chosen, though AIM-9X might not be acquired then.
I doubt Meteor has been chosen yet. It's STILL many years away from operational service, IIRC.
If India chooses a Russian aircraft than Russian weapons are a certainty...
I doubt Meteor has been chosen yet. It's STILL many years away from operational service, IIRC.
If India chooses a Russian aircraft than Russian weapons are a certainty...
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India already has Derby (for sea harriers at least) I believe but neither it or AMRAAM is in the 175Km Class. The Gripen integrates with the Derby and Python 5 now so unlike some of the US aircraft there wouldn't be any Integration costs involved. Meteor is still a little bit away althou there is a neat pic on this site of a gripen with 4 x Meteors and 2 x IRIS-Ts - nice combination indeed.
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I agree the Meteor is an excellent prospect, but I would guess that Indian timeframes would have to closely match the Meteor's availability and development program for it to have a significant chance.
I read that India's Sea Harriers are equipped with Derby, but it is not even in the AMRAAM range class, let alone Meteor. As the range of modern missiles improves (ASRAAM is considered a BVR capable missile now for instance) Derby from all I've read is only barely "BVR" capable...
I find it extremely unlikely in the event that F-16's or F/A-18E/F's were to be chosen that ANY missile combination besides AIM-9X/AIM-120C would be chosen to start with.
AMRAAM's aren't exactly standing still either. The "D" variant will very nearly match the Meteor for range performance, if I'm not mistaken...
I bet its either derriviative of R-27 or R-77. Long-ranged russian missiles like R-33M and R-37 have much longer range than 120km, USA missiles are out of question as they are in R-77 class, Europa dont have any right now except Meteor - not finished yet, and it is even unclear if its get claimed 100+ range, let alone 120km range. R-27 missile have a big room for improvment even with today's technology and is relatively safe development bet. R-77 with ramjet is future-may-be-or-not - an risky and ambition program if anyone want something really high-tech state-of-the-art.
if iam not mistaken ,the rvv-ae missile has a range of upto 160 kms and more advanced versions are under development,however iam sure ,that meteor will be selected ,mica is a surety for the upgraded mirage2000's.
with this india will have a huge variety of air to aior missiles(bvr capable):
1)rvv-ae (100+ kms)
2)mica (?)
3)astra (under development)(80 kms with a 160 kms ranged ram jet variant being considered)
4)derby for indian navy(range around 60 kms).
5)meteor ( a definite possibility)(120+kms).
as compared to wvraam:
1)r73
2)python 5(for the indian navy)
3)mica.
helicopter launched air to air missile is to be the mbda atam missile(air to air mistral).
with this india will have a huge variety of air to aior missiles(bvr capable):
1)rvv-ae (100+ kms)
2)mica (?)
3)astra (under development)(80 kms with a 160 kms ranged ram jet variant being considered)
4)derby for indian navy(range around 60 kms).
5)meteor ( a definite possibility)(120+kms).
as compared to wvraam:
1)r73
2)python 5(for the indian navy)
3)mica.
helicopter launched air to air missile is to be the mbda atam missile(air to air mistral).
RVV-AE (you meant future ramjet R-77 deriviative, right?) may - or may not - have that range. Personally, i'm rather sceptical about it. It would be great challenge to implement ramjet what works on all altitudes. R-27 look like much safer development.
I'm surprised so many people are treating this as a real source. This was already mentionned on WAB as bs.
what are people treating as a real source,that was just my asessment.