Boarding Footage from Israeli Flotilla Blockade

Juramentado

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Some boarding footage available from the weekend's flotilla blockade - the first video is infrared footage from another helo (possibly providing gun support) while the primary bird inserts the boarding team.

No flames please - this is not meant to be a political debate; it's simply rare to see this kind of footage from any VBSS (Vessel Boarding, Search & Seizure) operation, so I thought it would be of interest to fellow forum readers...
 

Juramentado

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Additional IR footage - Different Angle

More IR footage - possibly from the missile boats (Saar 4s or 5s?) that were alongside the Mavi Mamara. Some good close-ups of the action on the deck as the boarding team inserts. There appears to be at least one entry team member wielding a paintball gun (possible non-lethal with pepper balls). But the action is crazy - definitely a free-for-all on that deck. Goes to show you that an opposed boarding is very dangerous.
 

Sea Toby

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International water claims is a red herring. Any nation's navy can board ships in their EEZ, which reaches out 200 miles from the coast compared to national waters which reaches out 12 miles.
 

Juramentado

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Mods: Can we port this to Army & Security? It would be nice to have naval questions asked on this sun-forum. :goodbad
Please tell Sea Toby to read my posts in their entirety. I specifically stated in the original post that this was about the videos of VBSS boardings, which are rare to see. Not about the political aspects. Delete or edit his post if you must, but to penalize threads because a replier can't get beyond the subject line isn't particularly equitable or practical.
 
Wow, this is somewhat disturbing. So far, I can infer that no firearms were aboard the ship. Am I correct?

I've seen helmet cam video of Russian and Dutch boardings off the coast of Somalia against armed Somalia pirates. Those intercepts went MUCH smoother than this one. I mean the Israelis were fastroping right in the middle of an angry crowd that was using poles and rocks. Was it planned to be that way, or was it just a bad boarding plan. If those sailors had been armed with firearms, some of those IDF soldiers would be dead.

It seems that a boarding team from the vessels sailing alongside would have been better and safer. Fastroping one soldier at a time into a hostile crowd just doesn't seem that smart.

However, I have no experience with this kind of stuff, so I may be wrong.

Nice find.
 

Juramentado

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Now that more info has been released, I began investigating more into Israel's boarding. I came across this link (What’s the Right Way to Board a Hostile Ship? - By Joshua E. Keating | Foreign Policy). It basically explains it for people (like myself) who aren't familiar with boardings. A good article ".
When I heard the initial reports of the incident over the radio (it was an NPR station), I clearly recall the announcer reading off his report and part of that was a statement from the IDF indicating that they had considered trawler nets or other non-kinetic prop disabling techniques, but the Mamara's displacement exceeded what they had on hand.

Edited to add - couldn't find the NPR transcript, but a passage from the New York Times article on 01-June backs it up:

Deadly Israeli Raid Draws Condemnation - NYTimes.com

An Israeli official said that the navy was planning to stop five of the six vessels of the flotilla with large nets that interfere with propellers, but that the sixth was too large for that. The official said there was clearly an intelligence failure in that the commandos were expecting to face passive resistance, and not an angry, violent reaction.
The intelligence failure seems to be a bit far-fetched. Although it was only one out of five ships that seemed to actively resist boarding, this isn't the first time at the rodeo for either party. They've faced each other before in the camps at Gaza and other areas, so the idea that there wouldn't be at least one passenger who wouldn't go quietly is simply naive.

Firing at the ship might be worse. Remember, this is as much an Information War as it is a physical war. The option to fire a shot even traditionally across the bows would have been spliced and cut into a damaging vidclip by the IHH or whoever is behind the organized resistance.

Assuming an intelligent opponent, they've seen the IR videos and now know that the next confrontation point, likely on the Rachel Corrie, *should be* below decks. Taken into face context, the IR footage painted the Mamara passengers in a very negative light. It's hard to argue when you can see the fast-roper hit the deck and immediately get jumped by at least 4 passengers. However, the helmet cams and the vids from the passengers as found on Youtube and elsewhere are more easily manipulated and spliced, thus changing the context. No, I suspect the deck will be relatively empty on the Rachel Corrie, and the conflict will happen inside the skin of the ship.
 

1805

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Although I have a lot of sympathy for Israel (and those sailors put in an impossible position), but the net result of the enforcement of the blockade on land (with the backing of the Egyptian Government) and at sea, has been a totally disaster, which completely sets back their cause of National Security.

They really need to balance the danger of a few unguided missile fired in to Israel, with the potential undermining of friendly governments.

A fundamentalist revolution in Egypt and a return to a hostile neighbour is what they should be worrying about.
 

Noah Gladstone

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Israelis did try to board from small boats alongside but were unable due to objects being throw down on them and fire hoses as well as stun bombs.
 
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