Black Budget Anti-Gravity Tech

enigmaticuk

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I have read some dispersed information on supposed anti grav concepts sometimes labelled as TR-8. The basis for which is that using super pure mercury heated and spun inside a vehicle you can create an anti gravity field and attain flight. Does anyone know if there is any substance to these theories or is it just pie in the sky.
 

rickshaw

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It is less easy than you might think to dismiss research into anti-gravity. From a SMH article in 2003:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/28/1043534050248.html said:
Both the US and UK are publicly running research programs investigating anti-gravity under such headings as "propellantless propulsion". The UK effort, run by BAe Systems, is called Project Greenglow (see bbc for an overview), while in the US Boeing is running an anti-gravity program in its Phantom Works (Boeing's equivalent of Lockheed's legendary Skunk Works) in Seattle (see janes). In addition, NASA is looking into overlapping areas under the "Breakthrough Propulsion Physics" project (home page nasa). (An interesting selection of links on anti-gravity links, albeit with the odd crank, can be found at eskimo).
 

Wooki

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Generating anti-grav fields is just impossible.
No, its done everyday and its called a helicopter.

This basically comes down to whether you are a member of the Quantum physics cult, or the string theorist cult.

If you are a string theorist then yes, anti gravity is possible as you might like to describe gravity as a string... and strings can wrap around stuff.

And if its a string then you can make coherent bundles, kind of like a gravity laser and if that is possible you can do all sorts of cool stuff, like, I dunno; instant communications.
:alian2 ooohhh ahhhh

cheers


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amitluvslca

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I have read some dispersed information on supposed anti grav concepts sometimes labelled as TR-8. The basis for which is that using super pure mercury heated and spun inside a vehicle you can create an anti gravity field and attain flight. Does anyone know if there is any substance to these theories or is it just pie in the sky.
guys i hv read somthing abt it and they say that it is already in use by america in its b2 bombers. ok anyways just chek this out an article that startled

"Take-off thrust of the [B2 engine] F118- 100 at sea level is given as '19,000lb (84.5kN) class' by Northrop Grumman and as '17,300lb (77.0kN)' by the USAF. These are startlingly low figures for an aircraft whose take-off weight is said to be 336,5001b (152,635kg) and which was until recently said to weigh 376,0001b (170,550kg). Aircraft usually get heavier over the years, not 20 tones [sic] lighter. Even at the supposed reduced weight, the ratio of thrust to weight is a mere 0.2, an extraordinarily low value for a combat aircraft.What really put the cat among the proverbial pigeons was a feature published in a March 1992 issue of Aviation Week & Space Technology, entitled "Black world engineers, scientists, encourage using highly classified technology for civil applications". For the first time in open literature, this article explained how the B-2's sharp leading edge is charged to "many millions of volts", while the corresponding negative charge is blown out in the jets from the four engines.
 
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DoC_FouALieR

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I said it is just impossible, because first I'm talking about generating an antigrav field, not using another forces like electromag fields or inertial/acceleration to simply "cancel" the effect of gravitation. And although
If you are a string theorist then yes, anti gravity is possible as you might like to describe gravity as a string... and strings can wrap around stuff.

And if its a string then you can make coherent bundles, kind of like a gravity laser and if that is possible you can do all sorts of cool stuff, like, I dunno; instant communications.
I totally agree with this, it would take a lot of time to make any usable defence application using that part of physic.
 

Todjaeger

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I said it is just impossible, because first I'm talking about generating an antigrav field, not using another forces like electromag fields or inertial/acceleration to simply "cancel" the effect of gravitation. And although

I totally agree with this, it would take a lot of time to make any usable defence application using that part of physic.
Keep in mind though, that string theory is at present a mathematical construct. Much of the key evidence to determine whether string theory is valid is not presently discernable.

-Cheers

PS regarding the EM charge on the leading edge of the B-2, if I recall correctly, that was an additional technique for scrambling a returning radar signal.
 

PRAE_235

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"Anti-Gravity" & Tn-8979.

"Anti-Gravity" & Tn-8979.

Gravity has been shown to be the emission of waves from all bodies which possess mass. An exotic element know to me as "Trillian 8979" (although I believe this to be a name unique to project references) or "Tn-8979" developed and refined by the U.S. government has the unique property of emitting greater levels of gravitational waves than it should according to it's mass.

This has led to a rapidly greater understanding of gravity waves and the introduction of "anti-gravity" craft. Tn-8979 can be used to focus a gravity lense at a finite point in spacetime allowing for expansion of gravity wave mass within a localised field.

Once at a critical saturation point, gravity becomes negative within the localised field and ceases to act upon bodies within the field area. If saturation is exceeded, gravity wave mass enters into the negative domain, creating a reactionary gravity field, opposing gravitational influence within the environment.

I have witnessed this technology in action and it is real. Rotating mercury is not far from describing the kind of experiments I have seen. Tn-8979 is a highly reflective fluid at room temperature and emits high levels of gravitational waves when in motion. By placing Tn-8979 in a dual-centrifugal electromagnetic device, I have witnessed focusable gravity at work.

Very large objects can be made to literally float for many minutes at a time, with only a few millilitres of Tn-8979 at the core of the D-CEM Gravity/A-Gravity Generator. High energy levels are required to focus the gravitational effects however and this has caused enormous problems in the successful deployment of this technology.

This article:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DEEDF1431F935A25754C0A961948260
May refer to a supersollider, but this facility will in fact also house the development program for the continued manufacture and development of Tn-8979 technologies.

PRAE-235-[02-MAR-2007].
 
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