Australian Army Discussions and Updates

Bob53

Well-Known Member
the Points above are all fairly valid but I suspect if things heat up the rate of production would be too slow and the war stocks are will be too small and the ramp up time take too long. I don’t recall anyone in history saying we have too much ammunition.
 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
the Points above are all fairly valid but I suspect if things heat up the rate of production would be too slow and the war stocks are will be too small and the ramp up time take too long. I don’t recall anyone in history saying we have too much ammunition.
....just the bean counters (likely under pressure from pollies).
 

Volkodav

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
I must say I am beginning to appreciate the current evolution of defence in Australia.

Instead of announcement after announcement, photo ops and back patting, followed by a cancellation or failed introduction, a photo and news story appears basically saying, oh yes, we've got those now.
 

Bob53

Well-Known Member
I must say I am beginning to appreciate the current evolution of defence in Australia.

Instead of announcement after announcement, photo ops and back patting, followed by a cancellation or failed introduction, a photo and news story appears basically saying, oh yes, we've got those now.
Great progress compared to projects over the last 5-10 years but ” delivery of the first PRSM” doesn’t sound like it’s a capability yet. Looks to the synic in me ( cant help it live in vic) like one was delivered ahead of time for test firing during talisman sabre.

Does anyone know how many we have actually ordered? from what I can gather we have an order in $100m US$ with PRSM missile cost approx US $2.5m per missile… so say 40 will be procured from the initial batch of 300 running out to late 2026…. So we have have them here in a limited volume with 40 … possibly 50 by mid to late 2026.

All that said..despite limited quantity it’s a massive increase in range over what we had only 12 months ago with M777 howitzers.

 
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SammyC

Well-Known Member
Interesting the British Army has stated its plan yo Aquire 7000 one way attack drones. I would feel a bit better if the Australian army announced something about their plans For cheap attack drones. Most of what we are ordering seems to be incredibly expensive….. With Formula 1 blueprint, MGI Engineering says it’s revving up to scale drone production - Breaking Defense
I think one of the emerging problems with drones, is that defence systems are catching up very quickly. Simple drones are no longer surviving on the battlefield, so the easy low cost options are diminishing in value.

It kind of means that hardened, loitering, maneuverable and independed drones are becomming necessary. These are unfortunately the more expensive types, with the investment in EW protection, AI controllers, and large battery capacity. We have the additional impediment of needing long range as well.

We could very easily end up with thousands of obsolete and unusable drones with a poor procurement strategy here.

I would personally view that the better way forward is the heavy investment in R&D, prototyping and subcontractor upskilling, with the latent production facilities built to mass produce when necessary.
 
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