Army Beret Dropped
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except the berets have been removed from ceremonies as well (which is the core issue - not whether they're worn when tactical as specials (for eg) only wear them for dress or non tactical events). The exemption applies to units suchs as those in SOCOMD.
hence the ruckus as the argument about OH&S etc is pretty lame
I think Bunker B is referring to today's announcement by the US Army to abandon the general issue beret. A very different circumstance to the Australian Army nonsense.
The americans have been openly keen to embrace the philosophies and intent behind SRP, I just hope their beret decision wasn't coat tailing on one of our "good ideas"
bunkerb
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Yeah they are/were an absolute nightmare in the heat, after a day of sweating in them trying to salvage the berets and keeping them shaped is impossible... I heard its still at the discretion of commanders to keep them implemented in individual platoons...
How do I feel as a soldier that has to wear that piece of crap? Elated! It's an impractical piece of headgear that doesn't do what a hat was intended to do, keep your head cool and the sun out of your eyes. It will still be worn with the dress uniform which is okay for most of us since we rarely wear dress uniforms.
Another change that brought cheers is that we are now authorized to sew our name tapes on (we can also continue to use the velcro which I prefer) and special skill badges can be sewn to the uniform ie combat infantry badge, jump wings, aviator wings and so forth.
Another change that brought cheers is that we are now authorized to sew our name tapes on (we can also continue to use the velcro which I prefer) and special skill badges can be sewn to the uniform ie combat infantry badge, jump wings, aviator wings and so forth.
Maybe the US Army finally realized that the way in which berets are worn in it is in no way acceptable...
Having this big batch up front like an advertisement poster is ugly as hell and they should have had a look at the Brits and French to learn how to wear a beret before they introduced them.
Having this big batch up front like an advertisement poster is ugly as hell and they should have had a look at the Brits and French to learn how to wear a beret before they introduced them.
Quite a few South and Latin American countries like Salvador and Colombia have followed the American practice of having a large patch on their berets.
I know it doesn't say much. I was not suggesting that just because its a U.S. practice that it should be emulated, merely that other countries have followed suit. Similiarly, non-NATO countries with British ties have adopted British traditions such as the regimental system, organisational patterns, etc.
Getting off topic here but unless I'm mistaken the the U.S. ACU was the first with slanted chest pockets. What purpose does this serve?
I remember being a kid in 2001 seeing a Marine in MARPAT which was at the time was being wear tested (NS Mayport, FL) and it had the slanted chest pockets
from what I remember reading in the Navy Times then, the idea was that the pockets would be easier to reach into with the opposite hand especially when wearing gear like a seabag though I'm not certain if that was part of the offical design philosophy
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I've got to wonder whats going on here with reguard to uniforms and headgear.First berets are not something you wear in the field (thats what patrolcaps and boonie hats are for).Second if the Army dropping the beret will this mean we're going back to the garrison cap?
The beret was dropped for wear with ACU's while in garrison back in 2011. The patrol is now worn at all times. The beret is still used in ACU's for ceremonies like change of command at the discretion of the command. The beret is still worn with the Army Service Uniform (looks like dress blues). Happily, the garrison cap was dropped for good, a hat dumber than the beret IMHO.
The black beret used to be for the 75th Ranger regiment. The story I heard was that the idea was, "hey the Rangers are tough motivated troops, lets give everyone black berets." It sounds just crazy enough to be true. I thought the BDU's with the patrol cap looked a lot better, and maintaining BDU's is harder too so I feel it instills discipline.