Another Indian military jet crashes

mysterious

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Another Indian military jet crashes

NEW DELHI: An Indian air force Mirage-2000 jet crashed on Tuesday, the third French-built warplane involved in a crash since September, officials said.

They said the jet went off military radar “almost immediately†after taking off at around 8:40 pm (2040 GMT) from the central Indian air base of Gwalior and then crashed into a dense forest.

“The aircraft seemed to have caught fire while gaining altitude,†an air force source told AFP in New Delhi as rescuers rushed to the site to hunt for its lone pilot.

On October 12, an Indian air force Mirage-2000 went down during joint maneuvers with the Singapore air force after its pilot lost control because of technical problems. Another Mirage-2000 crashed close to crowded Gwalior city after losing its nosewheel in midair on September 23.

A defence ministry official said the latest crash was bewildering. “We are really at a loss to figure out why we are now losing Mirage planes. They have been so sturdy since we inducted them (mid-1980s),†the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. AFP

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-11-2004_pg4_20

There goes another one! First it was the Mig-21s, then Jaguars and now Mirage-2000s. I am as bewildered as that defense ministry official as to why cant they keep their ACs flight worthy all the time! :? Looks like, only the Su-30s right now seem to be getting top priority maintainance and being kept hazard-free. :cop
 

india2020

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The mirages are one of the best kept aircrafts in the IAF inventory.I have a strong feeling they have more to them than undercarriage failure. :mad The IAF should talk to dassault and the french govt and try talking about a service in the country of origin.
 

SABRE

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mysterious said:
Another Indian military jet crashes

NEW DELHI: An Indian air force Mirage-2000 jet crashed on Tuesday, the third French-built warplane involved in a crash since September, officials said.
May be third after september, but its 4th IAF Mirage2000 to go down. ARY Reported that pilot is still missing.
IAF is looking for more Mirages (over 120+) & these jets keep going down.

india2020 said:
The mirages are one of the best kept aircrafts in the IAF inventory.I have a strong feeling they have more to them than undercarriage failure. The IAF should talk to dassault and the french govt and try talking about a service in the country of origin.
Wll I think its more of an improper training on Mirages of IAF pilots than makers fault.
IF u have too many of the same jet that doesnt mean u can take a pilot of a MiG, train him for 6 months & declare him expert mirage pilot. 6 months can only train a pilot to fly & fight.
Its because of these reasons PAF hires personal (expert pilots) from the makers (to teach control of the jet) each time they buy new kind of a jet.
 

india2020

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Wll I think its more of an improper training on Mirages of IAF pilots than makers fault.
IF u have too many of the same jet that doesnt mean u can take a pilot of a MiG, train him for 6 months & declare him expert mirage pilot. 6 months can only train a pilot to fly & fight.
Its because of these reasons PAF hires personal (expert pilots) from the makers (to teach control of the jet) each time they buy new kind of a jet.
The IAF has dedicated pilots for every type of planes in its inventry.The pilots are in due course of time transferred to fly more sophisticated planes.And they are given adequate training before they are allowed to fly other planes.And 4 crashes cannot just be justified saying the fault lies with the pilot and his training.It has got to have more to it.The mirage is one of the most adored planes in the IAF and is loved by the pilots who fly it.It is one primary reason why the LCA was also designed keeping the mirage comfort in mind.And a plane like that crashing one by one is way beyond amusing. :cop
 

SABRE

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3 mirages of France it self has crashed in this year, & one of Greece. All have recorded it as Pilot error.

So 4 of IAF, 3 of France & 1 of Greece =8

8 Mirages I know have crashed & two countries reprted it Pilot's error. Greece said that the pilot was not able to control manuverbility at a sprinting speed. Mirages r known for their Sprint.
 

P.A.F

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thats sad to hear :( . anyway i think that the reality is that indias aircraft maintainance is very poor. they need to cut down on purchases and give more attention to maintainence or otherwise they are just wasting there own money which can go towards a stronger economy.
 

P.A.F

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anywayz i have subscribedto this aircraft mag and it has an article. i will type it up. here it is.


the indian airforce is considering upgrading its fleet of dassault mirage 2000 fighters in the light of an increasing mishap rate involving the type.
The service lost 3 of the french-built aircraft between 23 september and 12 october, highlighting its need to approve a life-extension programme.
Plans call for the mirage 2000 upgrade to follow the same lines as india's earlier projects to modernise its MiG-21 fighters and Hindustan aeronautics-built sepecat jaguar strike aircraft fleets. HAL, which has serviced and produced critical spares and components for the mirage since 1998, will be the focus point for the upgrade process. india has 2 squadrons equipped with 42 mirage 2000h fighters and 8 mirage 2000th trainers.
meanwhile, india is renegotiating a 2001 attrition deal to buy 10 more mirage 2000h fighters, amid a contractual wrangle over aircraft specifications. its airforce could also acquire 125 more mirage 2000s to meet a fighter requirement created by the planned retirement of its MiG-21s
 

Sq No.15

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Well , I might be wrong , but when i talked with some Airforce people what i found i like to share.

You notice one thing ? Suddenly Mirages start crashing, only After that India announces that it is intrested in purchasing 120+ Mirages , the crash and rate of failure increases suddenly.

Mirages are the best plane which has 3 redundecy system, and IAF Poilets love to fly these plans and maintainces of these planes are of A1 quality.

I might be Worng , but it to project Mirages to be not wrothy and look into other options , Well some forigen Companies can go into any extent to get lucrative multi billion doller deal , and may be their govt.

India is highy infltrated by US intelligence and their are some offers who r pro russian , well once should see that.

OR it may be technical faults
 
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