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76mmGuns

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StingrayOZ said:
As for the 57mm is oversized. maybe.. The US just disabled a container ship with 5 rounds of 127mm..
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I was wondering if the 5 inch gun had working in disabling it. I could only find info that shots had been fired, not that the engine was disabled.
Chuck Hill's US Coast Guard blog has posted that 57mm guns aren't likely big enough to stop cargo ships.
 
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StevoJH

The Bunker Group
spoz said:
There was a reason for the initial plan to buy 12 Arafuras; and anybody who has been, say, off Ashmore Reef in a Fremantle or an Armidale with the trades or the monsoon blowing knows what it was. Close in shore, light weight patrol vessels are fine but once you’re well off shore you want a sea kindly hull with a good grip on the water; and that can maintain better than 15 knots or so in SS4.
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As an example.

How often does the RAN check the fisheries off Heard and MacDonald Islands?

it’s going to be a lot cheaper to send an OPV for an all expenses paid holiday then it would to send a frigate.
 
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Reptilia

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If the LCH JV between Austal/Civmec is dead, Civmecs shipbuilding future can only be the Upgraded Mogami(unless other new ships are planned)
If the GPF program is to begin in 2031 and Civmec are contracted to 2028/29 for 6 OPVs, more opvs + upgrades to the class is a good way of filling the gap.

Recently civmec posted a congratulations to MHI, Japanese Government and Defence Australia and also listed a bunch of new jobs for the ‘growing’ OPV program.

Also on the Australian Defence & Industry Analyst YouTube channel at 1m 10secs, Mark Clay(GM CDI-Civmec Defence Industries) talks about the potential for additional opvs and infrastructure upgrades at Civmec.

IMO, The $ in the IIP is only enough for 3 more opvs max.(or 2 with upgrades to the whole class.)

 
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Stampede

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iambuzzard said:
Absolutely we'd all prefer more Mogamis but do politicians care about us anymore?
Imagine a fleet with 6 AWDs, 6 Hunters and 15 Mogamis, plus unmanned missile barges!
In a perfect world we wouldn't need them, but we don't live in a perfect world.
Besides, all us rational beings on this forum want everyone to come home if it goes pear shaped.
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In eight years time the plan is to have three Mogami and hopefully two hunters to add to our three Hobarts.
Maybe one SSN
As for the ANZACs numbers I can’t say other than the youngest of the class HMAS Perth will be by then 28 years of age, which was the retirement age of the first of class. HMAS ANZAC.

So probably eight ships.

Cannot see ship nine can anyone else?

This is our surface combat fleet in best case scenario.

It was just over two years ago The Surface Fleet review recommended the rapid acquisition of between 7 and 11 General Purpose Frigates.

Who would have thought not three years ago the Hunter program would be cut by a third and we would sign on to the maximum recommended total of Eleven new GPF ,three of which would be built overseas.

If this fantasy fleet was suggest three years ago the poster would of been cut down

What does all this mean.

Stuff happens quickly and scripts change.

Add submarines to that mix!
Whats an AUKUS?

The next eight years are a big challenge on many levels.

Please be open to changes to what we think our current and proposed fleet will look like going forward.


Cheers S
 
StingrayOZ

StingrayOZ

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Staff member
StevoJH said:
How often does the RAN check the fisheries off Heard and MacDonald Islands?
it’s going to be a lot cheaper to send an OPV for an all expenses paid holiday then it would to send a frigate.
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Or two..
www.antarctica.gov.au

Another one that didn’t get away! – Magazine Issue 2: Spring 2001 – Australian Antarctic Program

www.antarctica.gov.au www.antarctica.gov.au

But again if these are the only ships fast enough with long enough range, then that's all we have. As food supply comes under pressure from over fishing and fertiliser shortages, OPV's may become super important. They are presence, they can deploy dismounted UUV/UAV. search and rescue. Patroling, policing. Range and endurance are IMO greater priorities than firepower for an OPV.
 
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Reptilia

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Update on the Cairncross Dockyard

-Weld Australia
The Cairncross Dockyard project will include the construction of a large-scale graving dock, a 12,000-tonne hydraulic chain jack vertical ship lift, a 1,200-tonne crawler crane, new and expanded wharves, and critical power and water infrastructure. Once complete, the facility will be equipped to perform on-water and out-of-water vessel maintenance, ensuring vessels are ready to meet operational challenges.
 
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76mmGuns

Well-Known Member
Stampede said:
If this fantasy fleet was suggest three years ago the poster would of been cut down

What does all this mean.

Stuff happens quickly and scripts change.


Please be open to changes to what we think our current and proposed fleet will look like going forward.


Cheers S
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Breaking news- Oz govt orders 27 x Trump Class battleships from the US and 57 x Type 31's built in Indonesia, and gold plated personal fishing boat for the PM

Enough of a change? ;)
 
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