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iambuzzard

Well-Known Member
The other side are no better.
The collapse in frigate numbers is due to the 2010s Tory governments. They delayed Type 26 (leading to the purchase of River Batch 2 OPVs to at least get something for the money contractually committed to pay to BAE, originally intended for Type 26 construction, & keep the workforce's skills), & decided to extend the lives of T23s to cover the gap until the delayed T26s started to arrive. But they didn't plan or pay for the work necessary to keep all the T23s in the water long enough, & kept working them hard.

So now the hulls are so knackered they'd need rebuilding to keep operating, & as well as the money, there may not be enough yard capacity to do that while building T26 & T31. Bloody politicians. The Tories claimed to be pro-defence. Hah!
It's been both sides over decades that have neglected RN fleet numbers. They're both to blame.
 

swerve

Super Moderator
I addressed one aspect of that, the recent slump in frigate numbers because of the unscheduled retirements of frigates. At the moment, that's a crippling problem.
 

StevoJH

The Bunker Group
I addressed one aspect of that, the recent slump in frigate numbers because of the unscheduled retirements of frigates. At the moment, that's a crippling problem.
If the UK government was being serious about the problem, they would rebuild the T23’s as necessary to keep them in service until T31 and T26 came online.

T23 fit in the undercover refit docks at Devonport? So shouldn’t take away resources from T31 at Rosyth.
 

Takao

The Bunker Group
Guys can you move this discussion to the RN thread ? This thread is about these guys
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Best ship in the fleet :)

I have two equipment claims to fame: over 10 years in Aviation and ME deployments - have never seen a CH-47 in the flesh. And I have spent more time on HMAS Brisbane (II) than any other RAN vessel - including LPD, LPA and LHD!
 

ADMk2

Just a bloke
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Best ship in the fleet :)

I have two equipment claims to fame: over 10 years in Aviation and ME deployments - have never seen a CH-47 in the flesh. And I have spent more time on HMAS Brisbane (II) than any other RAN vessel - including LPD, LPA and LHD!
You’ve not been to Townsville in all that time? They fly over at least weekly…
 

At lakes

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well i have never been in the australian navy or the army and i have never been to Townsville but during the victorian bush fires i saw them about 4 maybe 5 times a day for two weeks. during the lead up to the Sydney Olympics they were using the airport at Albion Park for practice. and i was night shift on the 000 lines we took a large amount of calls or complaints of these Chooks approaching low over Warilla just south of Wollongong to the approach at Albion Park NSW about the noise and they were shaking the house. After a while I just said you are quite safe they are on our side and i would simply hang up
 

Takao

The Bunker Group
You’ve not been to Townsville in all that time? They fly over at least weekly…
I'm proud that I've spent less than 100 hours in Townsville :) Darwin is my choice of northern postings.

It's just never aligned, plus after Black Hawk / Huey I streamed recce/attack, so 1 Avn was my focus. Then I escaped Avn into wider Army and never had much to do with 16X again. The Hamel's I was out field for never had the CH-47s serviceable enough to attend - and the one time they did the Tiger's had been grounded, so even that didn't align!

Oh, and my flights in ME were either Spanish Army (so Puma's) or UH-60....
 

MickB

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I'm proud that I've spent less than 100 hours in Townsville :) Darwin is my choice of northern postings.

It's just never aligned, plus after Black Hawk / Huey I streamed recce/attack, so 1 Avn was my focus. Then I escaped Avn into wider Army and never had much to do with 16X again. The Hamel's I was out field for never had the CH-47s serviceable enough to attend - and the one time they did the Tiger's had been grounded, so even that didn't align!

Oh, and my flights in ME were either Spanish Army (so Puma's) or UH-60....
I'm proud that I've spent less than 100 hours in Townsville :) Darwin is my choice of northern postings.

It's just never aligned, plus after Black Hawk / Huey I streamed recce/attack, so 1 Avn was my focus. Then I escaped Avn into wider Army and never had much to do with 16X again. The Hamel's I was out field for never had the CH-47s serviceable enough to attend - and the one time they did the Tiger's had been grounded, so even that didn't align!

Oh, and my flights in ME were either Spanish Army (so Puma's) or UH-60....
At a Kingaroy airshow watched a chook roll down the runway on tail wheels only.
Same show had a Caribou roll down the runway om the nose wheel only, seemed to be at almost a walking pace.
 
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