Royal Australian Navy Discussions and Updates 2.0

[iambuzzard]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

Senior ADF officer charged over lucrative WA naval contracts

A retired senior naval figure is facing a secret military disciplinary process over unspecified allegations involving lucrative defence contracts in Western Australia.

7news.com.au

It's disappointing that this sort of thing is happening when our security is of paramount importance in the volatile world situation we're in.
Of course, the individual involved is innocent until proven guilty. That's how our law system is supposed to work. Other countries are not so even handed.

 

[iambuzzard]

Sad news I just saw. HMAS Sydney helped sink the ex USS Mobile Bay that I had the pleasure of a private guided tour through several weeks after 9/11. She was a big impressive ship.

 

[old faithful]

It's disappointing that this sort of thing is happening when our security is of paramount importance in the volatile world situation we're in.
Of course, the individual involved is innocent until proven guilty. That's how our law system is supposed to work. Other countries are not so even handed.

Yeah right....just like BRS, I note that this alleged crimminal has had his identity suppressed though....roll eyes, one rule for ORs and one for the White shoed admiral....just like the Commander we had in Prison for child sex offences....

 

[Cadredave]

Sad news I just saw. HMAS Sydney helped sink the ex USS Mobile Bay that I had the pleasure of a private guided tour through several weeks after 9/11. She was a big impressive ship.

By all accounts she took a beating before finally sinking.

 

[spoz]

Yeah right....just like BRS, I note that this alleged crimminal has had his identity suppressed though....roll eyes, one rule for ORs and one for the White shoed admiral....just like the Commander we had in Prison for child sex offences....

The former Commander was named almost immediately, and was (from memory) tried in a civil court. The names of sailors tried by court martial, quite a number each year, are not published in the press. Why should an officer be singled out? What if he or she is found not guilty? No case to answer even? Their reputation trashed even so.

I have a problem with the names of alleged perpetrators of sexual crime having their names across the press before conviction for the same reason. They, too, may be found innocent, but again their reputation is trashed.

If convicted, sure, publish names. But not before.

 

[mickm]

Good morning everyone, I haven't heard much lately about our acquisition of the Mogami Class Frigates from Japan. I believe steel is supposed to be cut for the first ship this year for a completion date in 2029. Is this still on track or is it falling behind because time is marching on.

Is there any information on what the class will be called and any possible names for the ships.

I would like to see the first three built in Japan called, Vampire, Vendetta and Voyager

 

[old faithful]

The former Commander was named almost immediately, and was (from memory) tried in a civil court. The names of sailors tried by court martial, quite a number each year, are not published in the press. Why should an officer be singled out? What if he or she is found not guilty? No case to answer even? Their reputation trashed even so.

I have a problem with the names of alleged perpetrators of sexual crime having their names across the press before conviction for the same reason. They, too, may be found innocent, but again their reputation is trashed.

If convicted, sure, publish names. But not before.

....and what has BRS been convicted of?

 

[Reptilia]

Good morning everyone, I haven't heard much lately about our acquisition of the Mogami Class Frigates from Japan. I believe steel is supposed to be cut for the first ship this year for a completion date in 2029. Is this still on track or is it falling behind because time is marching on.

Is there any information on what the class will be called and any possible names for the ships.

I would like to see the first three built in Japan called, Vampire, Vendetta and Voyager

The first 2 upgraded Mogamis are already under construction for Japan. Australia gets 1 of the 3 that start construction in 2026.
Delivery of the 1st ship to RAN is due no later than December 2029. The last of the 3 ordered is expected to be in service by 2034 so one can assume we will have ships 1-3 delivered in 2029, 2031 and 2033 and in service 2030, 2032 and 2034.
Australian Mogami construction to begin in 2031, hopefully with a delivery date of around 2036 and then a 2 year drumbeat for each ship.

 

[iambuzzard]

The first 2 upgraded Mogamis are already under construction for Japan. Australia gets 1 of the 3 that start construction in 2026.
Delivery of the 1st ship to RAN is due no later than December 2029. The last of the 3 ordered is expected to be in service by 2034 so one can assume we will have ships 1-3 delivered in 2029, 2031 and 2033 and in service 2030, 2032 and 2034.
Australian Mogami construction to begin in 2031, hopefully with a delivery date of around 2036 and then a 2 year drumbeat for each ship.

Is there any chance we could get up to the Japanese construction speed of three years? We're building a brand new facility so it should be capable of that speed.

 

[Bob53]

....and what has BRS been convicted of?

Innuendo and rumor.

 

[StevoJH]

Is there any chance we could get up to the Japanese construction speed of three years? We're building a brand new facility so it should be capable of that speed.

I mean, the issue is probably training the workforce rather than the construction facility.

You could build a duplicate of one of the big Japanese or Korean commercial yards, but without the skilled workers its not going to be able to build anything.....

 

[seaspear]

I mean, the issue is probably training the workforce rather than the construction facility.

You could build a duplicate of one of the big Japanese or Korean commercial yards, but without the skilled workers its not going to be able to build anything.....

Will Mitsubishi in Australia oversee the build of the Mogami class

 

[iambuzzard]

Will Mitsubishi in Australia oversee the build of the Mogami class

I gather they will obviously be here in the initial stages.

 

[south]

Any chance we could stick to the forum rules? E.G. knock off the BRS noise, the one liners, and the unsupported (ie no links/evidence) posts in the forum.

This thread is particularly bad at the moment.