Royal Australian Navy Discussions and Updates 2.0

Bob53

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Australian Army Boxer CRV Anti-Tank Capability Reduced

"Under Project LAND 400 Phase 2, the previously planned number of Direct Fire High Survivability Lift (DFHSL) CRVs, able to be equipped with a two shot LR2 launcher has been reduced to 40 from a total fleet of 133 CRVs. The LR2 package forms part of the so-called Deployment Kit, a modular range of ‘add-ons’ such as air burst munition sensors and the LR2 launcher which can be added to vehicles at unit level prior to deployment or in-theatre based on operational requirements."

I was under the impression this was a fitted-for-but-not-with situation? If so, the answer is all, but not at the same time. Yes?
….not sure how this chat got on the Navy thread? So in the wash up how many boxers did we end up contracting for? Was it only 133 in the end? I thought it was 200. Plus…I’ve lost track…understand only 40 turrent ordered. If yes 133 yes our “light“ armour is 40 Turrent equipped Boxers and 127 Red Backs? …plus 93 Boxers without Turrent? What would be the contingency if we got into a hot war…order more Turrent and build more boxers?
 

old faithful

The Bunker Group
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believe it was 211 Boxers, in total, with 25 being built overseas, and 186 built in Australia.

The 186 Block II CRVs are made up of 121 in the Combat Reconnaissance Vehicle (CRV) Reconnaissance variant, 29 in a joint fires support configuration (CRV-JFS), 15 in a command and control configuration (CRV-C2), 10 in a repair configuration (with crane) (CRV-REP), and 11 in a recovery configuration (with winch) (CRV-REC). Also included are 12 additional mission modules: 5 CRV-JFS; 4 CRV-C2; 2 CRV-REC; 1 CRV-REP. Also included are 20 frames for mission modules that allow these to be transported by truck, and within ISO dimensions. The contract includes an option for 11 ambulance mission modules.
 

Volkodav

The Bunker Group
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believe it was 211 Boxers, in total, with 25 being built overseas, and 186 built in Australia.

The 186 Block II CRVs are made up of 121 in the Combat Reconnaissance Vehicle (CRV) Reconnaissance variant, 29 in a joint fires support configuration (CRV-JFS), 15 in a command and control configuration (CRV-C2), 10 in a repair configuration (with crane) (CRV-REP), and 11 in a recovery configuration (with winch) (CRV-REC). Also included are 12 additional mission modules: 5 CRV-JFS; 4 CRV-C2; 2 CRV-REC; 1 CRV-REP. Also included are 20 frames for mission modules that allow these to be transported by truck, and within ISO dimensions. The contract includes an option for 11 ambulance mission modules.
I wonder how easily Boxer mission modules could be fitted to surface vessels or even trains.

With drone operations the ability to mass produce something based on these could be a game changer.
 

old faithful

The Bunker Group
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I wonder how easily Boxer mission modules could be fitted to surface vessels or even trains.

With drone operations the ability to mass produce something based on these could be a game changer.
Opens up a lot of development ideas, even loosely based on the modules for the boxer turrets.
I am sure that some alternative ideas will have been floated around, just the time frame that any decisions are made need to be re assessed in these times.
 

hauritz

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Last 3 Armidale class Patrol boats = no more. Next month all 3(Bathurst, Albany, Childers) are to be decommissioned at HMAS Coonawarra on December 4.

In other news, a JV between Austal and the Phillipines Coast guard for 3x 87m vessels(1 to be built in Austals Cebu yard, what about the other2?)

Austal is certainly expanding its footprint. I was aware of them having yards in the US and the Phillipines but they also have a Vietnamese yard I was not previously aware of. Australia could probably do worse than acquire a few large Coast Guard vessels itself so it could be worth paying attention to the Austal builds in the Phillipines.
 

Reptilia

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Austal is certainly expanding its footprint. I was aware of them having yards in the US and the Phillipines but they also have a Vietnamese yard I was not previously aware of. Australia could probably do worse than acquire a few large Coast Guard vessels itself so it could be worth paying attention to the Austal builds in the Phillipines.
Not sure why the Phillipines Coast guard would want a few patrol boats from Austal(I’m guessing it’s a lengthened variant of the Patrol 83 they have been pitching since 2019), possibly not enough work going on at the Phillipines yard?

Korea+Japan offer so many more options, faster, cheaper? and commonality with previous Frigate/patrol purchases like the HDP 2200+.
 

SammyC

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Not sure why the Phillipines Coast guard would want a few patrol boats from Austal(I’m guessing it’s a lengthened variant of the Patrol 83 they have been pitching since 2019), possibly not enough work going on at the Phillipines yard?

Korea+Japan offer so many more options, faster, cheaper? and commonality with previous Frigate/patrol purchases like the HDP 2200+.
Nothing from Austal on this. I would have thought they would be announcing it all over the place. I'm also not aware of Austal's Phillipine facility being a JV, my understanding is that Austal own this facility outright.

I agree Reptilia it sounds like a variant of the 83m OPV they have been marketing. Not sure if the 87 metre is a typo (perhaps a translation error). Can't see what you would get for an extra five metres on that design, its not enough for a hangar for instance.
 

Reptilia

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Nothing from Austal on this. I would have thought they would be announcing it all over the place. I'm also not aware of Austal's Phillipine facility being a JV, my understanding is that Austal own this facility outright.

I agree Reptilia it sounds like a variant of the 83m OPV they have been marketing. Not sure if the 87 metre is a typo (perhaps a translation error). Can't see what you would get for an extra five metres on that design, its not enough for a hangar for instance.
Id say more room for fuel, data sheet says 3,500nm at 12knts.
 
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